calafro Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I received a box of Montecristco 2s from a long term and reliable supplier. They look great, smell great and they smoke great. I was pulling them out of the humidor earlier today and I happened to glance at the serial number of the warranty seal. It had 11 digits. Any box I have ever seen and anything I have read has been consistent in that the serial number was 12 digits. Anyone ever see anything like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 like this one? 2009 - c late-2010 date (usually) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshiro Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 What is the Box Code? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 All forms: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calafro Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yes, it was similar to the picture. The first five digits were 0 and the last six digits were numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yes, it was similar to the picture. The first five digits were 0 and the last six digits were numbers. Does it work on the Habanos verification website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calafro Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 The verification site says it is not a valid code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The verification site says it is not a valid code. What is the box date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calafro Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 The box date is May of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 The box date is May of this year. This does not sound right. PM me details of your supplier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calafro Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 I agree it does not sound right. Everything else I have received from them has checked out. The supplier has offered to replace the box and I am going to take them up on that offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor2118 Posted November 25, 2013 Share Posted November 25, 2013 I agree it does not sound right. Everything else I have received from them has checked out. The supplier has offered to replace the box and I am going to take them up on that offer. For information, I suggest you read this: http://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/fakes.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Maplepie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I am new so go easy on me. How would I go about showing pictures of a box of montecristo no. 2 to show the warranty seal and it's numbers. Also the sticker from Spain that is on the box. I went to the habanos site and manually entered these numbers. Not coming up. But you must see this box, if they are counterfeit it's a really good one. Everything is there, everything. The cigars are good. I am very curious about this box and it's contents. I could not find out how to start a new post. I know this post is from the end of last year and I hope someone sees this. If not, sooner or later I'll figure out how to post. Thanks to anyone who might be able to help. from the front cover, take a high quality picture making sure you get the bar code of the box. like this: then take a picture of the bottle of the box. like where that paper ends and all there is is cedar (wood) then take a picture of the top of the box. note: the picture above i found was off a dealer's website. funny that they're fakes, eh? :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliverdst Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Did you buy it in Spain? The double code factory is odd. If it is old the seals should be diferent. If it's new it should have Altadis (Spanish distributor) seal. The "DE PARTAGAS" in the top of the box is not in the center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro2486 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 That date code looks really suspect to my (somewhat uneducated) eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent0341 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Doesn't even look close to being legit... I would be curious to hear who the vendor was (via PM) so I can make sure I am not using them. Or maybe Trevor can say (without naming them) if they are a respected vendor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maplepie Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Aye. Box stamp is wrong. Spanish sticker is missing. And the font/ shape that the box code is printed on is all wrong. Any more different and I'd be calling that Comic Sans I'd be interested in the dist. too if you could shoot me a PM as well? Or to everyone. Just CC it! Sent from my BlackBerry Q10 using Tapatalk for Android. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDistrictJP Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 The OP was about a box of Monte2's and now also a box of PSD4 - that factory stamp is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 No blue Altadis sticker. Also, interestingly, that's a Cuban Health warning sticker. NOT Spanish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Sorry, I just saw the round 'comentur' stamp on the bottom of the box. I've seen lots of pictures of that stamp on different boxes, but never on a real box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Same language. I don't think there would be another sticker. MINSAP is the Cuban ministry of health. Those stickers are only on boxes sold in Cuba, not on any boxes for export, even to Spain. Spanish boxes have a different style of sticker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent0341 Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 So to sum up what has been said (or to clarify) in response to the pictures posted by Jal154: Issues that definitively make this box fake: 1. That type of box seal has never been produced. The closest version was the one shown by Trevor and even that was not the same. However, for the box code you have shown it should be different. It should also have the seal number printed in multiple locations on the seal in micro printing. Issues that cause concern: 1. Multiple stamps. I am not sure what the stamp at the top right of the box is supposed to be. It appears to be some (completely incorrect) version of the NIVELACUSO or CODIGUNETA system. 2. No round Altadis sticker. 3. Cuban health seal 4. Font used on the box code. I have never seen that font used. It is certainly not out of the realm of possibility 5. The brand on the front of the box appears to be slightly off. This could certainly be a case of “Cuba being Cuba” for all I know. 6. The number comes back as not being a product of Habanos SA. I have never had this happen to me although I have heard that this can happen with real boxes. The seal you posted simply doesn’t have the correct amount of numbers on it. Bottom line: This box is not legit. If the seal on the box of Montecristo No. 2s is the same this is also a fake box. Everything you received through that vendor should be considered suspect in my opinion. I know it sucks to hear this. It can be heart-breaking to hear all of the boxes you’ve purchased are suspect. There are numerous sources out there with a wide range in prices. It is best to find one or two unquestionable sources and stick with them so you never have these issues. Most of us have been there at some point in our life. This site is a great place to locate a vendor like I’ve mentioned above. Sometimes a few extra dollars are worth the peace of mind. Hopefully this post doesn't come across as harsh as it is simply meant to help. Kind regards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcjs0101 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I cant see the Monte 2 box picture but im almost certain that the PSD4 box is not legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountingCristos Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I just picked up a few Montecristo sticks and the box from a local shop. The box also has an eleven digit code and I'm leaning toward bogus. Please let me know what you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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