Weeklystogie Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Just looking again at some cigar bands that I have (need to get a life), I was wondering about the band off my plugged Monte 2 that I had the other day. It has the embossing on the fleur de lys but the graphics extend all the way out past the end of the left side of the band. I've always seen the Montecristo band end on both sides, like the photos on cubancigarwebsite. Can this be normal or is this a suspect band (and cigar)? Thanks everyone.
Ophidion Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Well the print is off to the left a fair bit. So perhaps the end of the graphic went over the left size of the band.
Weeklystogie Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 Hmm. Maybe it is cut off. The band is 74mm on this one.
dangolf18 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Just looking again at some cigar bands that I have (need to get a life), I was wondering about the band off my plugged Monte 2 that I had the other day. It has the embossing on the fleur de lys but the graphics extend all the way out past the end of the left side of the band. I've always seen the Montecristo band end on both sides, like the photos on cubancigarwebsite. Can this be normal or is this a suspect band (and cigar)? Thanks everyone. Color looks off (doesn't match pre-2006 band or the 2006-2012 band). Pre-2006 band should be lighter and the 2006-2012 bad should be darker (plum color).
Trevor2118 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Hmm. Maybe it is cut off. The band is 74mm on this one. Length is about right, so the printing is wrong....which is unlikely. It is not possible to tell if the colour is okay due to exposure variations.....but yes, it does look wrong. You would have to photograph together with a real band.
Weeklystogie Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 Interesting - unfortunately this is the only Monte band I have, well what came from a box of ten. The color on it does look darker in person than in the photo I think due to the flash. Here's a pic of the box that it came from. Maybe I'll need to come up with a different Monte band for comparison. I think the box looks pretty good, the Habanos seal is attached a little high but otherwise seems pretty good.
dangolf18 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Interesting - unfortunately this is the only Monte band I have, well what came from a box of ten. The color on it does look darker in person than in the photo I think due to the flash. Here's a pic of the box that it came from. Maybe I'll need to come up with a different Monte band for comparison. I think the box looks pretty good, the Habanos seal is attached a little high but otherwise seems pretty good. Ok those look legit. I was confused I think b/c of the lighting in your first pic. Box looks right (swiss box).
Trevor2118 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 Did the barcode check out on the Habanos website? Have you read my post on Fake cigars. http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=113702 More chance of detecting a fake if you have the full box. The warrenty seal position is a concern.
Weeklystogie Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 Unfortunately these came with the box code removed. I think it's from a pretty reputable vendor but then again I could be wrong. Box code is ROL JUL 12.
Zacapa Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 The warrenty seal position is a concern. I'm curious about this because i find, particularly with skinny/10 count boxes, that the Cote de arms is never on the edge in order to fit the barcode on the front face of the box. But having said that i think i have a total of 2 boxes where they lined up with edge :S
Weeklystogie Posted March 11, 2013 Author Posted March 11, 2013 It came with the new paper insert with Habanos DOP up on the top right. The box seal is also the newer one with the DOP letters. The DOP letters on the box seal don't show up that well in the photo because the seal is placed kind of high on the box so it gets cut off in the photo. I think that's right for a 2012 box but again no expert.
stargazer14 Posted March 11, 2013 Posted March 11, 2013 I took a quik look thru my Montis and see a number of bands with the printing not lining up with the die cut, some maybe even a little worse than yours, but none with the end of the band cut off. Wait, I take that back- after removing the band, all are cut off. Other than that they look like legit #2's via SW.
Weeklystogie Posted March 12, 2013 Author Posted March 12, 2013 Thanks all for the insights - very much appreciated. I guess the bands are what they are. In any case the cigars look and smell great so hopefully some time at lowered humidity will do the trick. Also thanks Trevor for all the great info on cubancigarwebsite!
cigcars Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Hey, guys! Sunday's Cigar Inspector has featured what's probably the lousiest fake Montekristo band AND fake habano EVER! They didn't even bother to line up the print inside the borders at ALL! And upon cutting it open there were: sticks, wood, string and bugs! Sorry I'm not up with the times enough to attach a picture. It's truly unbelievable
Natedog Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Hey, guys! Sunday's Cigar Inspector has featured what's probably the lousiest fake Montekristo band AND fake habano EVER! They didn't even bother to line up the print inside the borders at ALL! And upon cutting it open there were: sticks, wood, string and bugs! Sorry I'm not up with the times enough to attach a picture. It's truly unbelievable Wow. That makes me feel good. Now I know all my fakes are very high quality!!!!
stargazer14 Posted April 9, 2013 Posted April 9, 2013 Here is that link, it is nice to know you don't want to smoke a fake!
cigcars Posted April 10, 2013 Posted April 10, 2013 Here is that link, it is nice to know you don't want to smoke a fake! *THANK YOU, Stargazer! The enormity of this worse-than-fake just can't be appreciated without visual display!!!
seanbeer Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 these are real.............honestly, fakes are usually very obvious........if this box is fake I think almost everyone is smoking fakes...
seanbeer Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 and don't think they would bother making 10s monte 2 fakes.....might cost as much as a real box to manufacture.
Zacapa Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 FWIW I looked at 2 boxes of monte 5s 2011, a box of monte PE 2012 and petaca of monte 2 : all have codes that check out ok with HSA and all had the same type band as yours with the pattern and colour running to the edge. I snapped a photo of a monte 5 example (note the band looks too short and squat but that's due to is not lying flat on the table)
Zacapa Posted April 17, 2013 Posted April 17, 2013 Oh in addition - I noticed that the monte 5 band was shortest on the left side which is the side that runs to the edge. While your monte 2 band is longest on the left side. Im going to guess that by running the print to the edge they can use the same bands for most of their standard range just by cutting the left hand side to size, where more cut off = smaller ring gauge. Rather than having a band for under 40RG then 40-46RG and so on like on other brands' bands
bugman78629 Posted April 28, 2013 Posted April 28, 2013 Here is that link, it is nice to know you don't want to smoke a fake! WOW.........Thanks for the info. Really great work...
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