Travel Fatigue

[phxkev]

I have read a lot on here about waiting 30 days or more before smoking a cigar after it has arrived from an overseas trip.

I don't doubt this and have no reason to really question or deny it but can someone explain why or how cigars get "fatigued" and need to "rest"?

To me, that implies a change at the molecular level of the tobacco. How does the cigar know it has been on a trip? How has it physically changed as a result of the trip and what will the rest physically do to the cigar to affect the flavor?

Thanks.

[Jimmy2]

Smoke one now get it out of your system .

Than smoke another in 30 days and taste the differance..;-)

[habanohal]

You will know the differance. Could be pressure changes at 30,000 feet. The only time I dont tell a differance is if they are traveled in an airtight casa like cigar caddy.

Last month , when we went to the DR, used my 50 ct otter box. When we landed I couldnt open it from the pressure changes outside but never affected the cigars themselves.

Youy could just buy 2 of everything , so when you recieve them, you can smoke through a box while the other sits :-D

( If any of tha makes sense)

[Colt45]

For me, it's a matter of the cigars acclimatizing to a stable environment.

Stabilization, I guess, is the key.

Or it could just be that the protons and neutrons need time to realign themselves.....

[smokum]

» For me, it's a matter of the cigars acclimatizing to a stable

» environment.

» Stabilization, I guess, is the key.

»

» Or it could just be that the protons and neutrons need time to realign

» themselves.....

I was a bit skeptical of this myself...so as a scientific check..I always smoke one out of a new arrival box...some of those first ones were nasty...a couple were hopeless...now I dug back in to gage what 45-60 days would do...and sure as ****....it's quite noticeable...I just smoked a Boli RC on the way home....a 1/2 hour trip took me an hour because I just didn't want to put it down it was so good. When I smoked one fresh out of the truck...it was nowhere near this good...so that was my scientific study....a good stable atmosphere and time seems to make them much better...even the young cigars. Plus who the hell wants to get bitched at by Tampa ?

[bassman]

I don't have a clue why, but my cigars always taste better after at least a couple weeks than if smoked on arrival. Patience is a virtue.

[El Presidente]

Others can provide a better molecular analysis. Temperature and pressure changes in travel distort the balance of a cigar. 30 days in your humidor at 65% RH provides equillibrium....the stars and planets re-allign and all is again good in the world as it pertains to your puro.

[habanohal]

» Others can provide a better molecular analysis. Temperature and pressure

» changes in travel distort the balance of a cigar. 30 days in your humidor

» at 65% RH provides equillibrium....the stars and planets re-allign and all

» is again good in the world as it pertains to your puro.

Truew be that!! When Jupitor is alligned with Uranus, all is well :-D

[Ken Gargett]

» Others can provide a better molecular analysis. Temperature and pressure

» changes in travel distort the balance of a cigar. 30 days in your humidor

» at 65% RH provides equillibrium....the stars and planets re-allign and all

» is again good in the world as it pertains to your puro.

now i know why you have been growing your locks - you're starring in the revival of 'hair'! god spare us the nude scenes (visions of suzanna, with apologies to dylan).

[Professor Twain]

I suspect that the key issue is humidity.

First, lots of cigars seem to be shipped too wet to smoke immediately (so they don't dry out in shipping)--so you have to wait to get them drier.

Second, if humidity is irregularly distributed in the cigar, then you will get a bad burn. When a relatively wet cigar goes into a drier environment, it seems like the interior of the cigar holds moisture, and you get canoeing.

[Bernard]

I used to do this with anything that arrived or I brought in -

One day fridge, 3 days freezer, one day fridge, then the humidor for at least a month.

Ok, so perhaps I cheated and kept a few out to smoke immediately on arrival.

[habanablue]

» does the cigar know it has been on a trip?

The cigar knows all....let them rest...or the Taino tobacco gods shall strike you down!

I know that after I've been on a plane for 13 hours I feel like shite, my ears are blocked, eyes are watery from the air con, I need a shower and a bit of sleep. That's how the cigar feels....yes they have feelings! ok getting a bit weird now!:-|

just yanking your chain phxkev, but I think I used a good analogy is the same...let em rest for awhile...no harm can be done!

[anacostiakat]

"...How does the cigar know it has been on a trip?..."

How do it know? :-D

[Cam]

Because im not at home i dont have a cabinet to bang my new cigars straight into, I ordered 5 davidoff Cubans, is the wine cellar ok? around 16 degrees celcius the humidity i think is around 65 is this ok for my davies? i plan to smoke them all this month just want to let them settle after their little trip across the channel.

Cam -

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated everyone.

[CelticBasque]

» I don't doubt this and have no reason to really question or deny it but

» can someone explain why or how cigars get "fatigued" and need to "rest"?

Kev,

Scientifically speaking (and I'm no Scientist here), I believe it all boils down to trauma. You see, the cigars are 'traumatized' when forced to leave a comfortable home environment full of familiar voices, sounds and the occasional rendez-vous with Lisa. Then, the cigars are further traumatized by traveling at an ungodly speed through the air at an altitude far above their usual digs. This is all compounded by the landing of said flight, which leaves the cigars feeling like Tom Hanks on Castaway after losing his beloved Wilson.

To add insult to injury, the cigars must then subject themselves to the care of a Courier. Some Couriers are kind, others not so. The cigars begin to feel angry, isolated, uncared for and spiteful.

But none of this is quite as bad as the moment when they arrive at a lovely new home, full of nearly-familiary voices and the promise of a better life, and get only a glimpse of a comfortable new Cedary-abode before being clipped and lit on fire. The old addage about boiling frogs comes to mind... but I digress.

You see, this last step in the process pushes the cigars beyond any reasonable comfort zone and causes it to lose faith in existence, mankind and a higher power.

Wouldn't you do the same?

[smokum]

» » I don't doubt this and have no reason to really question or deny it but

» » can someone explain why or how cigars get "fatigued" and need to "rest"?

»

»

» Kev,

» Scientifically speaking (and I'm no Scientist here), I believe it all

» boils down to trauma. You see, the cigars are 'traumatized' when forced to

» leave a comfortable home environment full of familiar voices, sounds and

» the occasional rendez-vous with Lisa. Then, the cigars are further

» traumatized by traveling at an ungodly speed through the air at an

» altitutde far above their usual digs. This is all compounded by the

» landing of said flight, which leaves the cigars feeling like Tom Hanks on

» Castaway after losing his beloved Wilson.

» To add insult to injury, the cigars must then subject themselves to the

» care of a Courier. Some Couriers are kind, others not so. The cigars begin

» to feel angry, isolated, uncared for and spiteful.

»

» But none of this is quite as bad as the moment when they arrive at a

» lovely new home, full of nearly-familiary voices and the promise of a

» better life, and get only a glimpse of a comfortable new Cedary-abode

» before being clipped and lit on fire. The old addage about boiling frogs

» comes to mind... but I digress.

» You see, this last step in the process pushes the cigars beyond any

» reasonable comfort zone and causes it to lose faith in existence, mankind

» and a higher power.

» Wouldn't you do the same? :rotfl:

[Professor Twain]

» Because im not at home i dont have a cabinet to bang my new cigars straight

» into, I ordered 5 davidoff Cubans, is the wine cellar ok? around 16

» degrees celcius the humidity i think is around 65 is this ok for my

» davies? i plan to smoke them all this month just want to let them settle

» after their little trip across the channel.

»

» Cam -

»

» Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated everyone.

I'd express mail them to a friend with a humidor, but be sure that it is a friend you trust not to smoke them.

[Mel]

Lord what a bunch of psuedo phsyco bull ****.:-D As long as Myanus or any other planet ain't lined up with a poker I'm fine. Cigars are people and just might be in a bad mood. Who knows why but it could be true.

[Colt45]

» Lord what a bunch of psuedo phsyco bull ****.:-D As long as Myanus or any

» other planet ain't lined up with a poker I'm fine.

I have heard there are klingons circling uranus, but these reports are as of

yet unsubstantiated.

[Mel]

» » Lord what a bunch of psuedo phsyco bull ****.:-D As long as Myanus or

» any

» » other planet ain't lined up with a poker I'm fine.

»

» I have heard there are klingons circling uranus, but these reports

» are as of

» yet unsubstantiated.

Tazers on stun please. This is gonna hurt. I let my cigars set 10 days and they improve very little after that.

[wp2]

» » I don't doubt this and have no reason to really question or deny it but

» » can someone explain why or how cigars get "fatigued" and need to "rest"?

»

»

» Kev,

» Scientifically speaking (and I'm no Scientist here), I believe it all

» boils down to trauma. You see, the cigars are 'traumatized' when forced to

» leave a comfortable home environment full of familiar voices, sounds and

» the occasional rendez-vous with Lisa. Then, the cigars are further

» traumatized by traveling at an ungodly speed through the air at an

» altitude far above their usual digs. This is all compounded by the landing

» of said flight, which leaves the cigars feeling like Tom Hanks on Castaway

» after losing his beloved Wilson.

» To add insult to injury, the cigars must then subject themselves to the

» care of a Courier. Some Couriers are kind, others not so. The cigars begin

» to feel angry, isolated, uncared for and spiteful.

»

» But none of this is quite as bad as the moment when they arrive at a

» lovely new home, full of nearly-familiary voices and the promise of a

» better life, and get only a glimpse of a comfortable new Cedary-abode

» before being clipped and lit on fire. The old addage about boiling frogs

» comes to mind... but I digress.

» You see, this last step in the process pushes the cigars beyond any

» reasonable comfort zone and causes it to lose faith in existence, mankind

» and a higher power.

» Wouldn't you do the same?

Well Written Sean!!!

[CelticBasque]

» Well Written Sean!!!

Thank you, Thank you, I'll be here all week...

Thanks, though... it really was just one of those organic moments.

Not only that, but I have it on good authority that someone's anus has something to do with all of this...

[El Presidente]

Seriously, Between Sean's stand up, Mels Uranus, Colt's Klingons and Kens Elephant ear underwear.......this thread has gone as low as it can go

[CelticBasque]

» Seriously, Between Sean's stand up, Mels Uranus, Colt's Klingons and Kens

» Elephant ear underwear.......this thread has gone as low as it can go

»

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