Does Rubio have a point??

[VeguerosMAN]

On 6/5/2026 at 12:51 AM, Khimerah said:

I think if you look at the Venezuelan example, the U.S. government looked for people they could trust if Maduro was ousted. I wouldn’t doubt this is being done right now in Cuba, but one particular issue is the military receives a large portion of the sanctions. So, it’s a very tricky situation but ultimately if Cuba completely collapses or entirely opens up I think it will be interesting to see for example in the cigar world how that looks. The amount of lawsuits and trademark infringement cases would be very high. I’m not sure if the admin wants that to all happen though. 

I believe the rats are installed in the current Cuban regime and they will turn on the regime when no one expects. I don't think the US gave Maduro a warning when he was captured. Perhaps the same play is happening behind the scene. The fact that the CIA director personally visited the Island a few weeks ago should tell you that sh it is going down...not if, but when. 

[cnov]

On 6/4/2026 at 2:41 PM, VeguerosMAN said:

According to my Cubans in Havana and Pinar, Diaz is just a puppet for the Castro family. The Castros still control Cuba. I may be wrong, but I believe most Cubans want a complete regime change and become a part of the US as the 51st state.  

I think I speak for the rest of the world when I say that there aren't many that want to become the 51st state. 

[Ken Gargett]

On 6/4/2026 at 11:41 PM, VeguerosMAN said:

According to my Cubans in Havana and Pinar, Diaz is just a puppet for the Castro family. The Castros still control Cuba. I may be wrong, but I believe most Cubans want a complete regime change and become a part of the US as the 51st state.  

regime change yes, new relationship with the US yes (although they might be wary about what that would mean with the current US govt), but 51st state? no way. i think the vast majority would strongly oppose that. agree with rob below. despite what certain buffoons might think (just using rob's description), people do not want to see their country subsumed into the States. 

and why would the US want them as the 51st state? baseballers? they get them anyway. cigars? hardly. given the current views on immigration, why give a free ticket to potentially ten million people? can't see it. 

why incorporate a basket case into your own country? i doubt it would be popular domestically, even if the Cuban people did not oppose it (which i have no doubt they would). 

[Ken Gargett]

1 hour ago, cnov said:

I think I speak for the rest of the world when I say that there aren't many that want to become the 51st state. 

new zealand. i believe new zealand would be keen. can we give them new zealand?