Question about Padron

[mohammed.s.almutlaq11]

Hey everyone, I wanted to know your opinion on Padron. Is it true that if I age Padron x000 natural for 2 years it will taste like 1926 natural? The 1926 is my favourite and the 80 years and 90 are my top picks, I would pick them over family reserve and even 5th anniversary.

[El Presidente]

3 hours ago, mohammed.s.almutlaq11 said:

Is it true that if I age Padron x000 natural for 2 years it will taste like 1926 natural?

I think that is a long stretch ......at least to my taste. 

[mohammed.s.almutlaq11]

4 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

I think that is a long stretch ......at least to my taste. 

How about 1 year?

[GerardMichaelTX]

It doesn't work like that, they have different fermentation processes that they follow for the thousand series than they do the 1926 nevermind the fact that it's also a completely different blend.

Aging will get you a smoother Padron with a similar profile to the thousand series but slightly better. I have a number of different vitolas from thousand series, 1964, 1926 sitting in my humi and I can tell you that aging thousand series with hopes of getting a 1964 or 1926 is a myth.

[El Presidente]

2 minutes ago, GerardMichaelTX said:

It doesn't work like that, they have different fermentation processes that they follow for the thousand series than they do the 1926 nevermind the fact that it's also a completely different blend.

Spot on 

[Partyshrts]

I'd like to know where they get the Maduro wrappers. Rumor is it is a San Andreas from Mexico.

[Nocoins]

6 hours ago, Partyshrts said:

I'd like to know where they get the Maduro wrappers. Rumor is it is a San Andreas from Mexico.

You are hearing that Padron maduro wrappers are sourced from Mexico, and not the Padron farms in Nicaragua? That would be some story, indeed. And to have kept it secret for all these decades?

[SCgarman]

On 6/20/2024 at 7:05 AM, mohammed.s.almutlaq11 said:

How about 1 year?

FYI, the Padron 1926's are made with tobaccos aged 5 years. You pay a "premium" for this. The 1964's are made from tobaccos aged 4 years. I like the 64 better, but all are amongst the best on the planet, period.

6 hours ago, Partyshrts said:

I'd like to know where they get the Maduro wrappers. Rumor is it is a San Andreas from Mexico.

No. Padrons are "Nicaraguan Puros".

[Ford2112]

9 hours ago, Partyshrts said:

I'd like to know where they get the Maduro wrappers. Rumor is it is a San Andreas from Mexico.

That's all that is, a rumor.

[Partyshrts]

18 hours ago, Nocoins said:

You are hearing that Padron maduro wrappers are sourced from Mexico, and not the Padron farms in Nicaragua? That would be some story, indeed. And to have kept it secret for all these decades?

I just said it was a rumor. Not sure I have ever seen literature stating where the wrapper is from?

[Li Bai]

22 minutes ago, Partyshrts said:

I just said it was a rumor. Not sure I have ever seen literature stating where the wrapper is from?

I think that's because Padron only produce nicaraguan "puros" which means all their tobacco comes from the same country, Nicaragua.

I'm no expert on Padron or any NC brand though, they may use tobacco from outside too 😅

[Partyshrts]

9 hours ago, Li Bai said:

I think that's because Padron only produce nicaraguan "puros" which means all their tobacco comes from the same country, Nicaragua.

I'm no expert on Padron or any NC brand though, they may use tobacco from outside too 😅

That rumor has never made sense to me. Why would they ever use a non Nicaraguan wrapper when they farm everything in that country?

[SCgarman]

Puro means all tobacco in a cigar is from the same country. I stated this in a previous post. Padron cigars are NICARAGUAN PUROS= filler/binder/wrapper 

[Cigar Surgeon]

On 6/20/2024 at 9:47 AM, Partyshrts said:

I'd like to know where they get the Maduro wrappers. Rumor is it is a San Andreas from Mexico.

 

21 hours ago, Nocoins said:

You are hearing that Padron maduro wrappers are sourced from Mexico, and not the Padron farms in Nicaragua? That would be some story, indeed. And to have kept it secret for all these decades?

 

[VeguerosMAN]

On 6/21/2024 at 1:47 AM, Partyshrts said:

I'd like to know where they get the Maduro wrappers. Rumor is it is a San Andreas from Mexico.

That's just a rumor. They use habano Nicaraguan seeds for all of their wrappers grown in Nicaragua.

[Cigar Surgeon]

Here's a good journey to try with New World cigars to get a taste of various tobaccos and Nicaraguan made cigars.

Smoke the following cigars and write down your notes:

• Padron 1964
• Nica Libre
• Plasencia Alma Fuerte
• Perdomo Habano Maduro
• Joya de Nicaragua Antano

I think if you're on a New World cigar journey it's a good idea to taste cigars with different wrapper types to get a general sense of the profile, and then try cigars that use those wrapper types in novel ways.

[Lamboinee]

 Some interesting info from an old 2001 article about Padron, Plasencia, and Nicaraguan tobacco....

- Since the Padróns plant only one type of tobacco, and determine later which leaves of it will be used as filler, binder or wrapper, the only way to get the different components is by careful sorting after maturity. Leaves that are broken become filler. Leaves that are solid but not so attractive might become binder. The best, undamaged leaves become wrapper. The best of that becomes wrapper for Anniversary cigars.

"We get natural and maduro from the same plant," says Jorge Padrón. "Retailers say it's not easy to distinguish between our natural and maduro. A lot of it is in interpretation." A Padrón natural might be golden brown, or dark brown. Maduros are usually close to black. He smiles. "That's why our inventory is a pain in the ass."

The best Padrón wrappers are silky and fine, and look as if they were grown beneath cheesecloth shade, but they are simply the lucky leaves that were shaded by a higher leaf. The family has little respect for traditional shade-grown tobacco.

"We've never used any shade-grown tobacco in our cigars," says Jose Orlando Padrón. He's a serious-looking man with a weathered, expressive face that commands respect. When he speaks, the 75-year-old often punctuates his words with a pointed finger. "When Cuba was making its best cigars ever, it was using sun-grown tobacco." Jose Orlando has been making cigars for 37 years, trying to emulate the taste of the sun-grown-wrapped H. Upmanns he knew as a young man in Cuba.

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/nicaraguas-power-leaf-7030

 

 

[BlueWS]

I preferred the 1964 Principe Maduro over the Natural as it's a lighter tasting maduro. I can't normally handle any maduros, Way too much nicotine for me. I probably would have quit cigars last year if it wasn't for a really great experience smoking those two Padrons.

[SCgarman]

1 hour ago, BlueWS said:

I preferred the 1964 Principe Maduro over the Natural as it's a lighter tasting maduro. I can't normally handle any maduros, Way too much nicotine for me. I probably would have quit cigars last year if it wasn't for a really great experience smoking those two Padrons.

When it comes to Padron 1964, there is no wrong answer. Pick your preference, they are all amongst the best of the best. 

[Partyshrts]

19 hours ago, Lamboinee said:

 Some interesting info from an old 2001 article about Padron, Plasencia, and Nicaraguan tobacco....

- Since the Padróns plant only one type of tobacco, and determine later which leaves of it will be used as filler, binder or wrapper, the only way to get the different components is by careful sorting after maturity. Leaves that are broken become filler. Leaves that are solid but not so attractive might become binder. The best, undamaged leaves become wrapper. The best of that becomes wrapper for Anniversary cigars.

"We get natural and maduro from the same plant," says Jorge Padrón. "Retailers say it's not easy to distinguish between our natural and maduro. A lot of it is in interpretation." A Padrón natural might be golden brown, or dark brown. Maduros are usually close to black. He smiles. "That's why our inventory is a pain in the ass."

The best Padrón wrappers are silky and fine, and look as if they were grown beneath cheesecloth shade, but they are simply the lucky leaves that were shaded by a higher leaf. The family has little respect for traditional shade-grown tobacco.

"We've never used any shade-grown tobacco in our cigars," says Jose Orlando Padrón. He's a serious-looking man with a weathered, expressive face that commands respect. When he speaks, the 75-year-old often punctuates his words with a pointed finger. "When Cuba was making its best cigars ever, it was using sun-grown tobacco." Jose Orlando has been making cigars for 37 years, trying to emulate the taste of the sun-grown-wrapped H. Upmanns he knew as a young man in Cuba.

https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/nicaraguas-power-leaf-7030

Looks like that clears the rumor up.

[HoyoFan]

So just to get back to the original question asked. This is an area where I've got a decent amount of experience. The question here is purely around taste. So, obviously you've already seen the response that aging the thousand series won't get you a cigar that tastes like the 1926. BUT, what I have found is that aging specifically the thousand maduro series for 3-4 years produces an incredibly balanced, smooth and delicious cigar that tastes like a sibling of the 1964. With one very positive difference. It doesn't have as much nicotine kick. Now go and experiment.