Gewurztraminer and a Cigar

[El Presidente]

It is hot and humid here in Patong/Phuket. I am loving our serviced apartment hotel no less because it has a bottle shop downstairs and I have been indulging in white wines over the past few days. The shop doesn't have a huge collection of wines but I picked up a bottle of Wolfberger Gewurtztraminer on arrival. I have always loved a good Gewurtz, but it has been an infrequent choice.

Holy moly, in a hot and humid environ, it has paired beautifully with my cigars. I think I have found my new wine cigar pairing and will host a Gewurtztraminer afternoon on the deck upon my return. 

....am I alone in this? 

[99call]

Try a good Torrontes with a EX4. 

[El Presidente]

1 minute ago, 99call said:

Try a good Torrontes with a EX4. 

onto it 

[99call]

3 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

onto it 

I'm not usually a white wine fan. But I find the EX4 quite a delicate subtle cigar. And the Torrontes has got a lovely floral rose edge to it

[El Presidente]

1 minute ago, 99call said:

I'm not usually a white wine fan. But I find the EX4 quite a delicate subtle cigar. And the Torrontes has got a lovely floral rose edge to it

Just so we are on the same page 

[99call]

5 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Just so we are on the same page 

Yep Argentinian Torrontes. I think that particular bottle looks to be around the £10 mark. Which would make it quite cheap and probably on the entry level side of town

Maybe worth having a look at this list...

https://www.vivino.com/toplists/top-25-argentinian-torrontes-wines-right-now-global

[Perla]

Wolfberger is supplying good quality wine. The Cremant is great as well. 
Have you ever tried Icewine (Eiswein) also Spätlese Riesling goes well with cigars?
I am not so in with sweet wine but my landlord dragged me into. And he is owning an wineyard 😂😂😂. 
Rheingau wines are really good with cigars. 
Nahe wines are hard to get, but worthy. They are a touch mineral than other Riesling. 

[SpecialK]

5 hours ago, El Presidente said:

It is hot and humid here in Patong/Pucket. I am loving our serviced apartment hotel no less because it has a bottle shop downstairs and I have been indulging in white wines over the past few days. The shop doesn't have a huge collection of wines but I picked up a bottle of Wolfberger Gewurtztraminer on arrival. I have always loved a good Gewurtz, but it has been an infrequent choice.

Holy moly, in a hot and humid environ, it has paired beautifully with my cigars. I think I have found my new wine cigar pairing and will host a Gewurtztraminer afternoon on the deck upon my return. 

....am I alone in this? 

 

4 hours ago, Perla said:

Wolfberger is supplying good quality wine. The Cremant is great as well. 
Have you ever tried Icewine (Eiswein) also Spätlese Riesling goes well with cigars?
I am not so in with sweet wine but my landlord dragged me into. And he is owning an wineyard 😂😂😂. 
Rheingau wines are really good with cigars. 
Nahe wines are hard to get, but worthy. They are a touch mineral than other Riesling. 

Got a fridge full of German Rieslings, never occurred to me to try any with cigars. Thank you both for the heads up.

[BrightonCorgi]

3 hours ago, SpecialK said:

Got a fridge full of German Rieslings, never occurred to me to try any with cigars. Thank you both for the heads up.

Not a whole fridge. Maybe 4-5 cases for me and never occurred either! They're my least drank wines in the cellar, but keep buying them when there's a deal.

[RDB]

Basically some sweetness and relatively high acidity is the magic combination with smoke. Off-dry German Riesling is to my taste pretty much perfect. Try a Mosel/Saar/Ruwer bottling at Kabinet or Spätlese sweetness, or about 8-10% alcohol leaving the rest of the sugar in the wine…heaven.

[vinnyvega]

I could actually see dry, high acid Rieslings like Falkensteins Kabinets being super refreshing and palate cleansing.   Still would never mix the two.....

[Fugu]

Rarely pairing my Rieslings with a cigar, neither stile. But agree, some do hold up pretty well against a smoke, in particular some basic (solid) quality Gutswein- and Kabinett-level with more residual sugar / less alcohol lend themselves to pairing with a cigar. Higher-growth “hock”, may it be sweet or dry, and cigar means wasting good wine. Plus, Riesling can be a tricky pairing due to it’s usually crisp acidity. One has to be selective. Personally, I do prefer less acidity in a beverage that is to accompany my smoke (says one who’s not pairing his smokes with orange juice either 😂). So, for me likewise, the in comparison low-acidity Gewurz with it’s pronounced, sometimes hearty floral spiciness would be a better choice indeed. And the basic Wolfberger is not wasted on a cigar either (look out e.g. for Zind Humbrecht if you’re in the mood for something truly special in the Gewurz realm...).

[El Presidente]

14 hours ago, 99call said:

Yep Argentinian Torrontes. I think that particular bottle looks to be around the £10 mark. Which would make it quite cheap and probably on the entry level side of town

Maybe worth having a look at this list...

https://www.vivino.com/toplists/top-25-argentinian-torrontes-wines-right-now-global

Life throws up surprises!

Beach shack Surina outside of Patong

 

 

[Perla]

And … how does it pair?

 

[El Presidente]

28 minutes ago, Perla said:

And … how does it pair?

 

Very well 😁

I look forward to exploring the line further. 

Research of course 

[loose_axle]

I enjoyed sauternes with a cigar on occasion and as they can be exxy. I found the De Bortoli Deen Vat 5 is a really good price worthy alternative. Usually around $13 at Dans.

 

[99call]

10 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Very well 😁

I look forward to exploring the line further. 

Research of course 

Glad it didn't totally bomb.  I can see the QDO going well with the floral notes Torrontes is typically supposed to have. 

Love your dedication to the 'research'

 

8 hours ago, loose_axle said:

I enjoyed sauternes with a cigar on occasion

As a general rule I can see Sauternes maybe being a bit too cloying with a cigar, but I can see it working with some older Hoyos. i.e. Du Gourmet, and Des Dieux

[BrightonCorgi]

7 hours ago, 99call said:

As a general rule I can see Sauternes maybe being a bit too cloying with a cigar..

Agreed. 

Too bad actually. I'd like to drink more Sauternes. I have enough half bottles; drinking 1 or 2 a year. A whole bottle of Sauternes; the last one I opened was like 15+ years ago.

Sauternes at auction is currently a give away. Great time to bid on back vintages of Château d'Yquem. 

[99call]

3 hours ago, BrightonCorgi said:

I'd like to drink more Sauternes. I have enough half bottles; drinking 1 or 2 a year. A whole bottle of Sauternes; the last one I opened was like 15+ years ago.

I find I only really drink them with cheeseboards. They go really nicely with sour/citrusy goats cheeses or Wensleydales etc