joeruby Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I builder mate found these in a cupboard draw of a house he was demolishing. I don’t think they are Cuban. Has anyone heard of these or know how old they might be? They look to be in good condition. Any help appreciated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Been around awhile--this box appears to be from the 1920s: Is this an Australian cigar? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeruby Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 Thanks for the replies. The box in photos that he sent me appear to be from a younger vintage than what you would find in 1920s and they also seem to be surprisingly well preserved, even fresh looking. The ad from the bulletin appears closer to the mark so maybe 70s -80s My mate wants me to try one with him so I’ll let you know how it goes. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, joeruby said: Thanks for the replies. The box in photos that he sent me appear to be from a younger vintage than what you would find in 1920s and they also seem to be surprisingly well preserved, even fresh looking. The ad from the bulletin appears closer to the mark so maybe 70s -80s My mate wants me to try one with him so I’ll let you know how it goes. Cheers Pretty sure they were Aussie made from imported tobacco and last seen in the 70's. There were a few brands floating around. Largely (maybe all) tripa corta. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Can't find much info about States Tobacco Co. Pty Ltd. Here's what I've found so. Laurie Phillip Lawrence (1 March 1838[1] – 14 August 1923) was a businessman and philanthropist in South Australia. History Lawrence was born in Dover, England, and was educated at Wanstall's academy, Chatham, Kent. At the age of 15 he left for Australia and the Victorian gold diggings, but had little success. He worked as clerk and storeman on a sheep station near Bathurst and at a softgoods warehouse in Melbourne, where in 1862 he married, before moving to New Zealand, where the Otago Gold Rush was under way. If he went prospecting success once again eluded him, but he stayed in Dunedin for three years. Somehow that did not work out, and he returned to Australia. Back in Melbourne, he found employment as a travelling salesman for I. Jacobs & Co., wholesale tobacconists. In 1875 he was appointed manager of their Brisbane office, which was at the time an offshoot of their Sydney branch. He either found that arrangement unsatisfactory, or the climate, and was given management of their Adelaide office, which traded as Feldheim, Jacobs & Co. The company became Jacobs, Hart, & Co. (Adelaide) in 1883, and Lawrence became a partner in the Adelaide firm. In 1888 the Melbourne partnership of Isaac Jacobs (c. 1835–1914) and Alfred David Hart (c. 1849–1928) was dissolved, and Jacobs withdrew from the Adelaide firm, which became Hart, Lawrence & Co., whose establishment included Wm. Cameron & Company's Virginia Tobacco Factory, Grenfell Street, near Hindmarsh Square; Wm. Cameron & Co. being an American company, the factory having been established by Feldheim, Jacobs, & Co. in 1876. His son Philip M. Lawrence was manager of the factory. In 1890 Lawrence and son Philip settled a strike by tobacco workers and in 1896 Hart and Lawrence restructured the business as Hart, Lawrence, & Co. Pty, Ltd, with Lawrence as Managing Director. and later still as the States Tobacco Company. In 1900, with the certain prospect of Federation and the abolition of inter-state duties, there was no longer any advantage to companies having separate factories in each State, and the three Adelaide tobacco factories (Wm. Cameron & Co., H. R. Dixson, and Dungey, Ralph & Co.) sought to cut costs by reducing the men's wages. The unions called a strike, whereupon the owners closed the South Australian factories,[8] and Hart & Lawrence became solely a wholesale outlet for the Victorian manufacturers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeruby Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, El Presidente said: Pretty sure they were Aussie made from imported tobacco and last seen in the 70's. There were a few brands floating around. Largely (maybe all) tripa corta. My mate sent me a couple more pics . Definitely from Melbourne. He said the box is in pristine condition, the cigars look like any other smokable cigar, not dried out even a bit spongy, no mould or visible nasties. Looks like there’s only one thing left to do and that’s try them.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 That box would have to be pre-1985, as the separate W.D. & H.O. Wills factories were combined in 1985 into the Pagewood factory in Sydney. Wills was a British company that came to Aus to take advantage of the growing tobacco industry, opening their first factory in Sydney in 1913. Wills came under British American (Tobacco) in Australia which became Amatil Limited (ie Coca Cola Amatil). And here comes the twist; Wills (in the UK) merged with a bunch of smaller companies to become Imperial Tobacco, which then merged with the American Tobacco Company to form British-American Tobacco Company. Imperial sold off its share in 1911, and Imperial kept their share until 1980. And in 1989, BAT bought Wills from CC Amatil. BAT also bought its former parent company America Tobacco in 1994. So the company that was formed from Wills... eventually bought it back. Interestingly enough, W.D. & H.O. Wills (Australia) Ltd is still around. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rcarlson Posted November 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2021 Monopole Magnum sounds more like a porn name than a cigar. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meklown Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 hours ago, rcarlson said: Monopole Magnum sounds more like a porn name than a cigar. How about Daisy Duopole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeruby Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 8 hours ago, rcarlson said: Monopole Magnum sounds more like a porn name than a cigar. Hey guys, go easy on naming something I’m going to put into my mouth and try for the very first time.. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now