Popular Post El Presidente Posted January 23, 2020 Popular Post Posted January 23, 2020 I love the way this was handled. Kudos CONTROVERSIAL CIGAR BAR OPEN FOR BUSINESS By HASKEL BURNS, 260 READS THU, 01/23/2020 - 12:17PM A controversial cigar bar has opened its doors in downtown Hattiesburg, two months after Hattiesburg City Council members voted 4-1 to amend a current ordinance to allow the operation of that type of establishment in the city. The Humidor at Hattiesburg, owned by Matthew Senge – who also is majority shareowner of Smokin’ Aces Social Clubs in Ocean Springs – officially opened for business on New Year’s Eve at 129 Walnut Street. The shop specializes in premium cigars, such as Rocky Patel’s Tavicusa, Alec Bradley’s Magic Toast, and CAO Brazilia. Council members passed the amendment – which makes an exception to the city’s ban on indoor smoking that was set into effect in 2007 – in early November, and the new measure went into effect the next month. The day before the amendment passed, Ward 2 Councilwoman Deborah Delgado, along with several residents and representatives from local health organizations, voiced their concern about the upcoming cigar bar. Delgado provided the sole vote against the measure. “I think it’s absolutely terrible, and we’re going backwards as a city,” Delgado said Tuesday. “When we adopted the non-smoking ordinance for the City of Hattiesburg, it was my understanding that we were being pro-healthy living, that we were trying to create a healthy environment for the people who lived here. “So if we are going to sanction or allow for cigar bars, I think we’re just going backwards. We’ve jeopardized the status that we were given because we adopted that (original) ordinance, and I just think it’s awful.” Senge originally approached the council in October regarding the idea of a premium cigar bar, where he said in addition to cigars, he also would like to incorporate a Cuban coffee bar, craft beer and wine into the shop. “It’s a place where you can gather, leave your problems at the door, come in and chill and relax,” he told council members. “Seventeen and a half million people smoke premium cigars in the United States, and the tax revenue that I bring to the city of Ocean Springs on yearly basis is between $15,000 and $20,000, so I’m sure the city can find a way to use those funds.” All smoking is limited to the inside of the building, but customers are allowed to purchase cigars at the shop for consumption elsewhere in private. Cigarette smoking and vaping are not allowed. In addition to allowing indoor smoking at The Humidor at Hattiesburg, the amendment states that 40 percent of the income at a cigar bar would have to come from tobacco-related sales. Any cigar bar in the city also is required to locate in a stand-alone building, separated from any other establishments. Mayor Toby Barker, who said the business is good for the city and downtown, made the point that many other cities in Mississippi have much broader exemptions than the one granted by city council. “We want downtown to be a destination, and we want to be business-friendly,” he said. “Thus far, I’ve not heard any negative feedback on (the cigar bar’s) opening. “I think that having entertainment venues where people want to go and be in the community, those are positive for the city and for downtown. I believe we vetted that exception very thoroughly, and we still have one of the most stringent smoking ordinances in the state. We want all of our businesses in the city to do well.” Senge said so far, the reception at the cigar bar has been great, with more than 260 people showing up for a recent UFC pay-per-view event. "The biggest thing, I think with the mayor and most of the city council, their idea was to revitalize downtown and to bring businesses and nightlife back," Senge said. "I know there was some controversy about the health concerns, but what else can you have but a letter from the FDA, and a senior study done by the National Instititute of Health, saying that one to two premium cigars a day has no evidence of establishing any type of cancer? "My rebuttal to the whole idea that 'cigars are just a big cigarette' is that it's just a lack of education, because cigars and cigarettes couldn't be further from each other. I would encourage (anyone) to a little research on what premium cigars are - they're not gas station cigarettes, they're not Swisher Sweets, they're not Philly Blunts. They're hand-crafted, and over300 hands touch this cigar before it touches your mouth, so that's the pride and passion that goes into this industry." 14 1
Rabbi Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 “I think it’s absolutely terrible, and we’re going backwards as a city,” Delgado said Tuesday. Forgive me for advocating for Satan, but I would not be surprised if this city director goes lawyer-shopping, hoping to find someone who will attempt to bankrupt the lounge’s owner by suing anytime a chicken within a 25 mile radius lays a double yolk egg. I hope I’m wrong.
barry12321 Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Excited to see this news... one small step for mankind. Though... CAO Brazilia and RP Tavicusa, while not bad, are their flagship cigars??!? 1
Popular Post El Presidente Posted January 23, 2020 Author Popular Post Posted January 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, barry12321 said: Though... CAO Brazilia and RP Tavicusa, while not bad, are their flagship cigars??!? Their flagship could be a Swisher Sweet and given the opportunity, I would be the first in line to smoke one with them in celebration 11
LLC Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 If only common sense was more common. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3
Corylax18 Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, BoliDan said: Wow, this person is a psychopath. Its scary man. No Facts, No Logic, just Feelings and Thoughts. I wish she was the only politician that operated this way, but the disease only seems to be spreading. From the tippy top to the very bottom, far right to the far left. Her thought process is quickly becoming the norm instead of a scary outlier. 1
Chibearsv Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 1 hour ago, El Presidente said: Council members passed the amendment – which makes an exception to the city’s ban on indoor smoking that was set into effect in 2007 – in early November, and the new measure went into effect the next month. The day before the amendment passed, Ward 2 Councilwoman Deborah Delgado, along with several residents and representatives from local health organizations, voiced their concern about the upcoming cigar bar. Delgado provided the sole vote against the measure. “I think it’s absolutely terrible, and we’re going backwards as a city,” Delgado said Tuesday. “When we adopted the non-smoking ordinance for the City of Hattiesburg, it was my understanding that we were being pro-healthy living, that we were trying to create a healthy environment for the people who lived here. I'll bet Deborah thinks their town was so healthy that nobody in that town died since the smoking ban went into effect in 2007. Good for the city council in moving forward with a sensible change to their overly restrictive ordinance whether Deborah liked it or not. 1
Corylax18 Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 It must also be mentioned that Mississippi had the 2nd highest rate of Obesity in the entire country last year and I couldn't find a year on record where they weren't in the top 10. 39.5%, Damn near half. Healthy indeed. Mississippi also has the 2nd highest cancer death rate, 2nd highest prevalence of Heart Disease, I could go on, but the bottom line is that Mississippi is literally THE most or the 2nd most unhealthy state in the entire country. In just about every category measured, and they aren't improving. I wonder how many McDonalds Debbie has gotten rid of in Hattiesburg. 4
Fuzz AI Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 2 hours ago, El Presidente said: “I think it’s absolutely terrible, and we’re going backwards as a city,” Delgado said Tuesday. “When we adopted the non-smoking ordinance for the City of Hattiesburg, it was my understanding that we were being pro-healthy living, that we were trying to create a healthy environment for the people who lived here. 2
SirVantes Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 Meanwhile, I’m still trying to get past “over 300 hands touch this cigar before it touches your mouth”. 2 2
Capt. Corona Posted January 24, 2020 Posted January 24, 2020 8 hours ago, SirVantes said: Meanwhile, I’m still trying to get past “over 300 hands touch this cigar before it touches your mouth”. Hope at least some of them washed after........well you know!
Habana Mike Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 12:44 AM, SirVantes said: Meanwhile, I’m still trying to get past “over 300 hands touch this cigar before it touches your mouth”. So, 150 individuals or 300 people? I always use the disinfecting wipes on the head of my cigars before they hit my lips.... ?
Nino Posted January 26, 2020 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/24/2020 at 6:44 AM, SirVantes said: Meanwhile, I’m still trying to get past “over 300 hands touch this cigar before it touches your mouth”. I use that line to excuse rinsing my mouth in copious amount of rum ... before and after smoking ? 2
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