Spanish cedar overload

[HumidorJuan]

I’m halfway through enjoying one of my Boli Petit coronas from 2015 and it’s just cedar overload.  Not in a nice way.  I take the dividers from my various now empty dress boxes and slip those in my humi’s with my sticks. Is that creating this cedar overload? Had the same overloaded cedar aroma in my mouth from a PLPC. Both sticks have been in the humi less than 2 months 

[Smoke6]

I'm curious to see what the members have to say on this, as I do this as well.  BTW, what are the dates of the two smokes you had?  Wondering if that makes a difference?  Members.......?

[Kitchen]

I smoked a 8 year old HdM DC last year with a buddy of mine that stored them in some serious cedar.  The cigar lost everything and tasted of nothing but cedar the whole way through.  So yes, I would say you can over cedar a cigar.  

[HumidorJuan]

1 hour ago, Smoke6 said:

I'm curious to see what the members have to say on this, as I do this as well.  BTW, what are the dates of the two smokes you had?  Wondering if that makes a difference?  Members.......?

the Boli petit Corona is ULA JUN 14 the PLPC, im not sure but most likely 2018, purchased from my local B&M 

[BuzzArd]

I was speaking to Pete Johnson of Tatuaje cigars several years ago and I remember him saying that when he was collecting cigars that he was going to put away for an extended period of time that is the first thing he did was to remove them from the cedar boxes to reduce the influence of cedar on the tobacco.

That always stuck with me....

[TheGipper]

Hmm, two months seems like a short amount of time to impart such a strong cedar note, but maybe the cedar flavor just isn't your cup of tea.

You may not want to buy any 10+ year old boxes of the Romeo Cedros series. 

[JLinz]

2 hours ago, TheGipper said:

Hmm, two months seems like a short amount of time to impart such a strong cedar note, but maybe the cedar flavor just isn't your cup of tea.

You may not want to buy any 10+ year old boxes of the Romeo Cedros series. 

I agree.  I don't think two months of cedar is enough time to materially impact flavor. 

[El Presidente]

9 hours ago, HumidorJuan said:

I’m halfway through enjoying one of my Boli Petit coronas from 2015 and it’s just cedar overload.  Not in a nice way.  I take the dividers from my various now empty dress boxes and slip those in my humi’s with my sticks. Is that creating this cedar overload? Had the same overloaded cedar aroma in my mouth from a PLPC. Both sticks have been in the humi less than 2 months 

Quick check on your humidity level and the device measuring it?

cedar inserts tend to have a high aroma the wetter they get. 

[HumidorJuan]

5 hours ago, El Presidente said:

Quick check on your humidity level and the device measuring it?

cedar inserts tend to have a high aroma the wetter they get. 

71RH 75C. Took the cedar shims out and am recalibrating my Boveda butler 

[BuzzArd]

If the hygrometer is correctly calibrated I’d get that rh down 10points....   71 is wet, wet, wet for Cuban cigars.  Others may have different opinions.  

My main cabinet is kept at 62%.   I still find dry boxing some smokes is helpful.  

[HumidorJuan]

2 hours ago, BuzzArd said:

If the hygrometer is correctly calibrated I’d get that rh down 10points....   71 is wet, wet, wet for Cuban cigars.  Others may have different opinions.  

My main cabinet is kept at 62%.   I still find dry boxing some smokes is helpful.  

Ya I have 65RH humi packs In there, I just find it’s so arduous and slow to lower RH, but it’s going in the right direction. 

[HumidorJuan]

9 hours ago, JLinz said:

I agree.  I don't think two months of cedar is enough time to materially impact flavor. 

I know it was surprising to me as well. @TheGipper is correct in saying I already have a distaste for cedar.  Unless I’m smoking a RnJ wide Churchill, or a rass is some other fruit forward smoke, I like cedar then, but not in my bolis.  Thanks for chiming in gents 

[cigcars]

      *I had ordered from a supposed "valid" vendor some years ago one of those 5 variety pack pyramides in their own small wooden, cedar container. Because the cedar aroma was SOOOO strong I left them alone for about 8 months. In smoking one, then the other, the only thing I could taste and smell was cedar...practically no tobacco taste or aroma. I then ascertained that possibly I had blank fakes or something: I'd never known cedar to overwhelm tobacco that much, and especially for aging of any time to have NO effect.

[Bucky McSwensen]

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[Bucky McSwensen]

 

5 hours ago, HumidorJuan said:

Ya I have 65RH humi packs In there, I just find it’s so arduous and slow to lower RH, but it’s going in the right direction.

I keep various bovedas and find sometimes I need to cycle 62 bags from the humidor to a Tupperware with desicant beads.  They suck up moisture in the cigars, then they dry out in the Tupperware.  Then I can recharge the desicant in the oven and cycle again.  When bovedas get too dry they can be recharged, same with too wet.  Or place near the ac unit if you have one

[LLC]

If the hygrometer is correctly calibrated I’d get that rh down 10points....   71 is wet, wet, wet for Cuban cigars.  Others may have different opinions.  
My main cabinet is kept at 62%.   I still find dry boxing some smokes is helpful.  

100% agree. Also at 62% and also find drying especially in the summer improves the cigars even more. I’m having a Lusi now that’s been out about 5 days and it is smoking better than if I had just taken it from the humidor.


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[JLinz]

100% agree. Also at 62% and also find drying especially in the summer improves the cigars even more. I’m having a Lusi now that’s been out about 5 days and it is smoking better than if I had just taken it from the humidor.


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What do you mean by "out"? Are you dry boxing at ambient humidity? If so what ambient rh level do you have? Wondering because I think some consider dry boxing to mean throwing a stick in a tuberware that's sealed with a lower boveda pack in it.

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[BuzzArd]

Assuming “out” would be out of a humidor environment.  

I live in a desert.   Humidity is often 10% or even less.   When I dry box I simply put a stick or several in a Xikar travel humi without any humidity source.   The moisture in the tobacco fills the box until some equilibrium is reached (if left long enough...).  I don’t keep a hygrometer in with them, but I could.  Maybe a good experiment.  But the cigar releasing that moisture makes a huge difference in how it smokes.  If you live in a high humidity area you’ll probably need to include some amount of dessicant to remove water vapor from the space inside the box.   

[prodigy]

This makes me want to investigate some sticks I have aging in cedar coffins. I had a bunch of the liberty series NC coffins and put an assortment of my favorite sticks in there probably close to 2 years ago now. However, I love cedar, so maybe they'll be about perfect now.

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[Tonyontop]

This is very interesting and apparently it happens as other members seem to have experienced it too. I do like cedar but not sure how’d I’d feel about an overwhelming overload of it. Great, yet another thing I have to worry about as if there wasn’t already enough of that...