Popular Post 99call Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 Le Hoyo Des Dieux BUM NOV 2013 Aroma at cold: Rich dark honey, bready, woody Cold Draw: Sweet funky, woodsy, slight tannic leather 1st 3rd Salt on the lips, tannic mix of oaky wood and leather, Dark leathery raw vanilla bean. Buttery smoke starting stream from the cigar after the first 10mm. That wave of tannic aromatic white woods is building, gladly so is the creamy vanilla, I love that Dieux get into stride so quickly, there’s no crossing of fingers or hoping, it’s just there in spades. Salt, sour, and sweet, in perfect step, and volume dial is slowly, but relentlessly rising 2nd 3rd Like most of the cigars a love the most, theres something slightly funky or rotton in the mix, with Des Dieux, I feel its the rich sour butter/cream. This is far from being the best from the box, forgot to dry box, and there is distinctly less of the soft lilting vanilla. Palate very very dry now. Jesus, this is like working in a saw mill with no mask, has to be smoked so slowly as its overwhelming, almost unpleasant. 3rd 3rd The vanilla is trying to get through, but I think I’ve done the cigar a massive disservice by smoking too wet, the black English breakfast tea paring didn’t help either, it’s a white woods bomb. I still love it, but a long way off what a DD can be Conclusion I feel battered, face smashed with an oak baseball bat. The cigar was erratic and searingly powerful, lesson learned, the next one is going to get at least 48 hrs in the dry box. It could of been a dud, but my gut feeling was it was all my fault. Score The cigar gets a 89, I get a D- 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Yup, yup, yup...too much cedar or wood and not enough vanilla sweetness. I hear ya! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohbob976 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 just curious what RH do you generally store your cigars at? do you generally drybox everything before you smoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, ohbob976 said: just curious what RH do you generally store your cigars at? do you generally drybox everything before you smoke? I store at 65% Bovedas, I only usually dry box in the summer, as even thought the north of the UK is very stable, we currently have a few steamier days which may have sent the cigar over the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKostyan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thanks Stefan. Your reviews are rare but interesting.The excellent ash made me doubt the conclusions about excessive humidity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, nKostyan said: Your reviews are rare Hopefully be doing a lot more, as I've not been that much in the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, nKostyan said: The excellent ash made me doubt the conclusions about excessive humidity... There could be a chance this specific cigar just needed many more years ageing. I have two other boxes of Dieux from 2012, and they heavy tannic wood, and ammonia smell on the bundles, is still way too overpowering to consider smoking them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKostyan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 There could be a chance this specific cigar just needed many more years ageing. I have two other boxes of Dieux from 2012, and they heavy tannic wood, and ammonia smell on the bundles, is still way too overpowering to consider smoking them. I'm not a big fan of Hoyo, but everything I smoked didn't have ammonia even in the early years. Traditionally, this is a brand with a low strenght? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, nKostyan said: Traditionally, this is a brand with a low strenght? I would agree with the rest of HDM line, but not Des Dieux (and arguably not the Especial, the ones i've had have been dark and strong), i would describe the 'ammonia' in the DD, as a specific tannic sour dry tasting wood flavour. As I mentioned in the review, it can be overwhelming, and you can smell it off the foot of the bunch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCgarman Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, 99call said: There could be a chance this specific cigar just needed many more years ageing. I have two other boxes of Dieux from 2012, and they heavy tannic wood, and ammonia smell on the bundles, is still way too overpowering to consider smoking them. Jeez, 7 years of age and they are not ready for smoking? Any box in my humidor from 2012 is smoking just fine, although I don't have any DD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKostyan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I would agree with the rest of HDM line, bit not Des Dieux (and arguably not the Especial, the ones i've had have been dark and strong), i would describe the 'ammonia' in the DD, as a specific tannic sour dry tasting wood flavour. As I mentioned in the review, it can be overwhelming, and you can smell it off the foot of the bunchExcellent, I need to try it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 8 minutes ago, NYgarman said: Jeez, 7 years of age and they are not ready for smoking? Any box in my humidor from 2012 is smoking just fine, although I don't have any DD The previous 20 from the box have smoked well (if not very woody). But this one was overpoweringly tannic. And without the characteristic soft vanilla. It may just be a blend thing. des Dieux is one of the few cigars I would not think twice about ageing for 20yrs plus. I wouldn't say the same of Gourmet. Dauphin, Prince, Maire, Roi or Depute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99call Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, nKostyan said: Excellent, I need to try it I had a look the other day. And they still seem available in Russia. You lucky bugger! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortigan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, 99call said: I store at 65% Bovedas, I only usually dry box in the summer, as even thought the north of the UK is very stable, we currently have a few steamier days which may have sent the cigar over the edge. It's certainly been a steamy one today! I came in from wok just after 9pm and briefly considered a smoke but I'd have been fighting it all the way on a night like this. Very nicely written review, thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonk Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Good job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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