Lucass111 Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Question for you all. I have recently lowered my RH to around 62% at about 68-72 degrees Fahrenheit, my question is when should I be concerned about loss of oils in my cigars? Am I safe? Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk
Bucky McSwensen Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 For smokable in the next few years I think you are good to go. Long term aging I keep mine at 65+. I think you need low 50s for drying out oils to really kick in. Curious what others experience as well
Islandboy Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 Not sure about oils, but just going by flavor and smokability I’ve settled on 65 as my personal sweet spot. 69 = too wet with poor burn & inconsistent flavors, 62 = too dry with loss of flavor & burning too quickly. Using Boveda packs, I tried each of these 3 settings for at least a year to come to this conclusion.
inter4alia Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, Islandboy said: Not sure about oils, but just going by flavor and smokability I’ve settled on 65 as my personal sweet spot. 69 = too wet with poor burn & inconsistent flavors, 62 = too dry with loss of flavor & burning too quickly. Using Boveda packs, I tried each of these 3 settings for at least a year to come to this conclusion. I came to the exact same conclusion using the same trial and error method. All 65% bovedas for me now. My temp range is the same as the OP for most of my stock.
CaptainQuintero Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 I don't think so, I went down to 54% add a test in a desktop over the course of a year and the flavours just got more and more intense. I noticed at that point that wrappers began to get a little frail. Beyond that I couldn't find any negatives, if anything there were solid positives right across the board
HumidorJuan Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 A smaller gage imo calls for 58-62RH to open it up a touch, where I can take a robusto or anything 50size and higher and smoke them at 68-70RH. I want a thicker gage to have a bit more moisture so it doesn’t burn too hot. I think some vitolas flavour wise are great when they’re a bit dryer too. Get a bit more of a toasted tobacco vibe.
TheMonk Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 62% RH should be fine, but IMO it should be achieved at a lower temperature, 72 F is too high. HSA recommends 16-18º C, which roughly translates to 60-65 F, and that has been my personal experience as well. Closer to 60 for longer term ageing, between 65 and 70 F for shorter term storage and smoking.
JLinz Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, TheMonk said: 62% RH should be fine, but IMO it should be achieved at a lower temperature, 72 F is too high. HSA recommends 16-18º C, which roughly translates to 60-65 F, and that has been my personal experience as well. Closer to 60 for longer term ageing, between 65 and 70 F for shorter term storage and smoking. I would be interested in more views about the temperature side of this equation. It seems there is a strong consensus (or at least majority view) on RH. However, what about temp? Do others think 65-70 F is materially different say than 70-75 F (assuming product has been frozen)?
Deeg Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 For those of us who live in hot climates and have to rely on tupperdor and desktop storage, temperature is a much bigger issue than RH. You can just choose your Boveda and dump it in, but it costs a lot of money to cool an entire apartment or house to 68 degrees when you’re at work all day.
SCgarman Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Deeg said: For those of us who live in hot climates and have to rely on tupperdor and desktop storage, temperature is a much bigger issue than RH. You can just choose your Boveda and dump it in, but it costs a lot of money to cool an entire apartment or house to 68 degrees when you’re at work all day. Use a wine cooler and convert it. Much cheaper than central AC turned down to 68
SCgarman Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Lucass111 said: Question for you all. I have recently lowered my RH to around 62% at about 68-72 degrees Fahrenheit, my question is when should I be concerned about loss of oils in my cigars? Am I safe? Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk 62% would be the lowest RH I would go, not because of the oils but the wrappers become brittle and may damage/lose pliability. 65% at 70 degrees F works just fine for me!
Deeg Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 13 minutes ago, NYgarman said: Use a wine cooler and convert it. Much cheaper than central AC turned down to 68 Wine coolers ain’t cheap on a teacher’s budget!
inter4alia Posted June 20, 2019 Posted June 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Deeg said: Wine coolers ain’t cheap on a teacher’s budget! Plus they really don't hold much.
Bucky McSwensen Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 Rtic coolers are great and they have random sales. Costco has a really well insulated (7 day ice retention it claims) cooler for 99 but its ugly. I throw an ice pack wrapped in a dish towel in a ziploc bag in mine when the internal temp hits 70 on a hot day. Cycle through that process until the heat wave dies down. Rest of the year it's good to go on temp. 1
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