Winchester21 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have been buying a lot of Cohibas in tubes and cardboard box packaging. These typically are available on 24/24 and sell slower than the wood boxes which makes them available for my slow crappy internet connection. A large majority of theses have red stickers that would indicate PSP stock. No arguments with the quality. Are these the real deal as to PSP quality inspection? Just curious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BuzzArd Posted June 24, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2017 I wouldn't know. I don't smoke the stickers..... Too many are caught up in the color sticker they get. Throw the damned sticker away and smoke the cigar. Rob doesn't send out junk. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foursite12 Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Rob has commented, albeit wonderfully cryptically, on the significance-or lack thereof-of his stickers. What BuzzArd said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Red is not always PSP. If I want to put aside a certain box code as in this case, it is easier to mark the ones with that box code. In that case it was Red Stickers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester21 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 2 hours ago, BuzzArd said: I wouldn't know. I don't smoke the stickers..... Too many are caught up in the color sticker they get. Throw the damned sticker away and smoke the cigar. Rob doesn't send out junk. Never said that 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester21 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 1 hour ago, El Presidente said: Red is not always PSP. If I want to put aside a certain box code as in this case, it is easier to mark the ones with that box code. In that case it was Red Stickers. Thanks for the clarification I figured it was something like that. Just nice to know for aging decisions ect. For the record I am very satisfied with your stuff PSP or otherwise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Winchester21 said: Thanks for the clarification I figured it was something like that. Just nice to know for aging decisions ect. For the record I am very satisfied with your stuff PSP or otherwise No problem at all In that case there were more than one code available. I would have found one to be superior in checking. I then just put a sticker on those but it will be the sticker closest to hand as opposed to a special quality designation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester21 Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 17 hours ago, El Presidente said: No problem at all In that case there were more than one code available. I would have found one to be superior in checking. I then just put a sticker on those but it will be the sticker closest to hand as opposed to a special quality designation. They are all good enough to pass for your description of PSP. From what I have received as of late. My plan has been to put the higher grade stock back for aging and smoke the other stuff in the short term. Thus my questions concerning tubes and paper cartons. I have only recently started putting stock back for aging so with tubed or boxed stock I will make a judgement based on your comments and wrapper color. Thanks again for your time and assistance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy04 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 On 24/06/2017 at 10:12 AM, BuzzArd said: I wouldn't know. I don't smoke the stickers..... Too many are caught up in the color sticker they get. Throw the damned sticker away and smoke the cigar. Rob doesn't send out junk. I don't understand these types of responses? Winchester21 asked a straightforward question towards Rob based upon his pricing and inspection policies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunod Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 On 6/23/2017 at 6:54 PM, Winchester21 said: I have been buying a lot of Cohibas in tubes and cardboard box packaging. These typically are available on 24/24 and sell slower than the wood boxes which makes them available for my slow crappy internet connection. A large majority of theses have red stickers that would indicate PSP stock. No arguments with the quality. Are these the real deal as to PSP quality inspection? Just curious I know I'm in the minority but I love the tubes. The tend to be a laggard on 24:24 due to cost, but as I've said on this forum before, you can get a bit of age on tubes because they are slow sellers. Now I have another theory. I also think they are more consistently rolled due to the fact that they won't fit in the tube. Probably not true but I can't remember a single instance that I got a plugged tube. Also like grabbing a couple tubes jamming them in my pocket, and heading off for the day not worrying about putting them in a travel case or whatever. btw, the recent Cohiba tubes I received from the 24:24 should be in a museum . They are spot on ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallclub Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 1 hour ago, stunod said: Now I have another theory. I also think they are more consistently rolled due to the fact that they won't fit in the tube. Probably not true The rollers have no idea of the intended packaging of the cigars they're rolling; they aren't even told what marca they're rolling… And, all cigars spend several hours in a mold, I can't see how they wouldn't fit in the tube… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HarveyBoulevard Posted June 25, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2017 9 hours ago, Andy04 said: I don't understand these types of responses? Winchester21 asked a straightforward question towards Rob based upon his pricing and inspection policies. The reason people respond this way is the question regarding sticker color has been asked a few hundred times and answered...and answered...and answered. The search function is a great tool that is used too infrequently. The question also implies things (intentional or not) that irritate some members. Is this the real deal...is this red really psp...not questioning? That's precisely what is being done. That's why people answer these posts this way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planetary Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 7 hours ago, stunod said: I know I'm in the minority but I love the tubes. The tend to be a laggard on 24:24 due to cost, but as I've said on this forum before, you can get a bit of age on tubes because they are slow sellers. I haven't bought or been exposed to enough tubo cigars to have a statistically significant opinion. However, ignoring things like mold risk, and viewing the question from a from a flavor perspective alone: I suspect that sealing tobacco is strictly better. A lot of flavor and aroma come from complex molecules which like to go airborne. Every time I open my humidor and take in the wonderful aroma, a small voice in the back of my noggin winces, knowing that this aroma has left my cigars ever so slightly diminished of those complex flavor-bearing molecules. Cigars are different from pipe tobacco, as well. Very different! However, leaving pipe tobacco out in the open for a prolonged period robs the mixture of its character and flavor, too. (Some of that flavor comes from certain tobacco mixture processing steps which typically don't occur in cigars.) All these loose observations are simply a way of saying that the idea of a tubo -- or, sealing cigars, more generally -- agrees with my intuition and the scraps of experience I've gained over the last several years in cigars, and approximately 20 years of pipe smoking. If it weren't for the mold risk (which I don't have my head around, enough to justify putting my non-trivial humidor investment at potential risk), I'd probably be a tubo, and box sealing, advocate! </threadjack> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc2001 Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 A recent box of Bolivar Tubos from FOH had about half of them moldy. No bid deal, I brushed them off and put them in my wineador for a long nap. I'll check on them in a year or so. This is my first experience with mold, though I've bought several tubos before. I guess it's true that tubos are susceptible to mold. I can't say with certainty but I guess if the cigars are a bit wet when they enter the tubes it locks in the moisture that leads to mold. Once acclimated though I don't think mold is anything to worry about.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Philc2001 said: This is my first experience with mold, though I've bought several tubos before. I guess it's true that tubos are susceptible to mold. I can't say with certainty but I guess if the cigars are a bit wet when they enter the tubes it locks in the moisture that leads to mold. Once acclimated though I don't think mold is anything to worry about. Boxes of tubed cigars where there is no mould on any of the 25 sticks?..........i would put that at less than 5%. i expect to see a level of mould on tubed cigars. It may be a dot here or a nice little machine gun spray of them. When they are not there, i am surprised. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 19 hours ago, Andy04 said: I don't understand these types of responses? Winchester21 asked a straightforward question towards Rob based upon his pricing and inspection policies. The question has indeed been asked and answered before. i don't mind but an e-mail or PM also is an option. in relation to the Red Dots, the cigars in question were never given the designation of PSP when they were put up on 24:24. They were given the designation of clearance. from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fuzz Posted June 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2017 24 minutes ago, El Presidente said: The question has indeed been asked and answered before. i don't mind but an e-mail or PM also is an option. in relation to the Red Dots, the cigars in question were never given the designation of PSP when they were put up on 24:24. They were given the designation of clearance. from memory. You selling Red Dot Cohibas now? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BEVOSREVENGE Posted June 26, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2017 38 minutes ago, Fuzz said: You selling Red Dot Cohibas now? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunod Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 13 hours ago, Smallclub said: The rollers have no idea of the intended packaging of the cigars they're rolling; they aren't even told what marca they're rolling… And, all cigars spend several hours in a mold, I can't see how they wouldn't fit in the tube… That why I called it a theory. And now my theory is proven incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanishcedar Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 On June 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Andy04 said: I don't understand these types of responses? Winchester21 asked a straightforward question towards Rob based upon his pricing and inspection policies. This can be interpreted a few different ways, my friend. Below is my interpretation of how I read BuzzArd's comment On June 23, 2017 at 9:12 PM, BuzzArd said: I wouldn't know. ... smoke the cigar. Rob doesn't send out junk. Sometimes you need to use your own filter to read through it all; you will usually find, people in the FOH community are generally encouraging each other to smoke cigars and be a patron of Rob's cigar shop whenever possible, and BuzzArd is doing just that in his own brotherly way, it's way better than a swirly or a pink-belly [trust me]! Now, go smoke a cigar and stick around, see you at the next 24:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SignalJoe Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 On 6/25/2017 at 8:38 AM, Smallclub said: The rollers have no idea of the intended packaging of the cigars they're rolling; they aren't even told what marca they're rolling… And, all cigars spend several hours in a mold, I can't see how they wouldn't fit in the tube… On 6/25/2017 at 9:49 PM, stunod said: That why I called it a theory. And now my theory is proven incorrect. I wouldn't say your theory is incorrect. All these cigars spent several hours in a mold and yet...different ring gauges/different lengths. While the rollers may not know the packaging to be used the sorters have to find sticks true to the vitola size to fit in the tubes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabashcr Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I don't ever remember a tubed cigar being graded as PSP. Usually they're hand-picked or clearance, with the caveat that he's opened a couple from each box, and what he saw looked good. I could be mistaken, and there could surely be exceptions, but I was under the impression that Rob wouldn't bestow the PSP grade on boxes of tubos, since he can't get a look at every cigar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonmotyme Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Lmao. Way to start my morning. Great laugh. ThxSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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