Dimmers Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Dearest Ken, Rob and collective ARSEnal fanbase, Welcome to the new epoch! Please enjoy the ride. COYS! Yours sincerely, A long suffering Spurs fan 1
Sunsmoke Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Haha every dog has it's day ? Although most dogs don't even last 22 years!! Must admit, very good young team.
El Presidente Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Please never again associate me with Arsenal Man City since 1970's. 2
soutso Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Spurs look great at the moment and like Liverpool are looking at building something special. The next few seasons will be interesting with regard to how these two progress. I'd never underestimate Arsenal. They are a few key signings away from being a top team. They just need some steel. A Patrick Viera type enforcer who keep the opposite worried and his own players in check.
Ken Gargett Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 yes, congrats to spurs for winning.... precisely what have they won? i can't think of anything. and should those wretched gunners somehow, against all the odds and despite being dire, manage to jag the FA Cup, how do you rate the comparative seasons? but a good season, no doubt, and they look a good team and gave us a deserved thumping - to be fair, i don't think the scoreline reflected the game - it should have been about 6-0. it may not even be two decades before they finish ahead of the gunners again. 1
Ken Gargett Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 ps - dimmers, i am lost as to the reason for the gay bloke (not that there is anything wrong with that) dancing and what is in his hand?
Dimmers Posted May 3, 2017 Author Posted May 3, 2017 3 hours ago, El Presidente said: Please never again associate me with Arsenal oh sorry didn't mean to stain your reputation in such a manner LOL ! 1 hour ago, Ken Gargett said: ps - dimmers, i am lost as to the reason for the gay bloke (not that there is anything wrong with that) dancing and what is in his hand? Ken your homework for tonight: http://freshprince.wikia.com/wiki/Carlton_Dance 1
Dimmers Posted May 3, 2017 Author Posted May 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Ken Gargett said: yes, congrats to spurs for winning.... precisely what have they won? i can't think of anything. Ah but come on Ken, you’re missing the point. Arsenal fans hammed it up re St Totteringham’s Day for years (and Spurs heartbreakingly did their best to provide great material year on year). But it seems that gunners fans have been a little more concerned with finishing higher that Spurs than winning a title of late. When was the last time that Arsenal seriously contended for the premiership ? This season has been wildly successful for Spurs, and building on the steady improvement since Mauricio took the helm. An immensely talented young team that plays just beautiful football. It has been so fun to watch this year. Likely to finish 2nd (and you never know, only 4 points off Chelski with 4 games left….). Homegrown talent in the mix. Half the wage bill of many other clubs. Not put together via sugar daddy ownership. I’ll take this any day of the week, even if Arsenal do manage to win the FA cup. 3 hours ago, soutso said: Spurs look great at the moment and like Liverpool are looking at building something special. The next few seasons will be interesting with regard to how these two progress. yeah the future looks v promising and hopefully Kane, Ali, et al., will decide to stay and continue build something special rather than be swayed by the bigger clubs when they come calling.
wabashcr Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: precisely what have they won? i can't think of anything. They won the league... In black and white.
Ken Gargett Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Dimmers said: Ah but come on Ken, you’re missing the point. Arsenal fans hammed it up re St Totteringham’s Day for years (and Spurs heartbreakingly did their best to provide great material year on year). But it seems that gunners fans have been a little more concerned with finishing higher that Spurs than winning a title of late. When was the last time that Arsenal seriously contended for the premiership ? yes we might have cranked it up, but it is our right. isn't it? contenders? how about last year? we came 2nd. we stuffed it up but we still came 2nd and were serious challengers until the latter part of the season. any reason your 2nd is better than our 2nd? and finishing higher than spurs is not the aim, just an annual bonus. but to be honest, if spurs don't finish above us for the next five years at least, they've stuffed something up badly. we are toilet fodder. an utter mess. 2
hedgeybaby Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 Sp*rs will be talking about this season for the next 20 years
mrwhitt Posted May 3, 2017 Posted May 3, 2017 I'm with Ken on this, trophies matter (though the money of the UCL is what everyone fights for). Ken, it appears your only hope of Arsenal finishing above Tottenham in the near future comes when all the Tottenham stars are sold to clubs paying much higher wages.
cookj1 Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 19 hours ago, Dimmers said: Dearest Ken, Rob and collective ARSEnal fanbase, Welcome to the new epoch! Please enjoy the ride. COYS! Yours sincerely, A long suffering Spurs fan Bravo amigo! The true kings of North London. 1
Ken Gargett Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 1 minute ago, cookj1 said: Bravo amigo! The true kings of North London. yeah, yeah. good season. everyone got excited about john paul the first as well. and we all know how long that lasted. interesting that last year we came 2nd and were gutted by that. you guys come 2nd and it is fireworks and cake. still, i guess that is the difference between a serious club and this year's leicester wannabees.
CaptainQuintero Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 I have serious worries about Arsenal. Nearly two decades of great football buy the decline has been there to see. It was always going to struggle post les invincibles, but the players in the past few years have been dire. Only when revolution in the terraces did real players like Sanchez and Ozil get brought in, but even then the rest of the team struggles on a weekly basis to achieve mediocre. I think it's only Wenger's skill that he had managed to get what he has out of them. Based on the Welbeck affair it sounds like he has little or no control over transfers. If he is off soon, I can see some big trouble on the way. 1
Dimmers Posted May 4, 2017 Author Posted May 4, 2017 8 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: yeah, yeah. good season. everyone got excited about john paul the first as well. and we all know how long that lasted. interesting that last year we came 2nd and were gutted by that. you guys come 2nd and it is fireworks and cake. still, i guess that is the difference between a serious club and this year's leicester wannabees. Haha love it! Shots fired indeed! Best of luck against Chelsea in the FA (sincerely) but I do wonder if even winning the FA will be enough to save Wenger ? Otherwise the tide has turned, and we are now what gunners used to be. We have the talent, we play the exciting + attacking football. COYS!!
Ken Gargett Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 22 minutes ago, Dimmers said: Haha love it! Shots fired indeed! Best of luck against Chelsea in the FA (sincerely) but I do wonder if even winning the FA will be enough to save Wenger ? Otherwise the tide has turned, and we are now what gunners used to be. We have the talent, we play the exciting + attacking football. COYS!! dimmers, one season! this was like nsw after they lost a series, thinking they'd be back next year. if you top us for the next three then i'll concede it. sadly, wenger will go when wenger decides.
wabashcr Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, CaptainQuintero said: I have serious worries about Arsenal. Nearly two decades of great football buy the decline has been there to see. It was always going to struggle post les invincibles, but the players in the past few years have been dire. Only when revolution in the terraces did real players like Sanchez and Ozil get brought in, but even then the rest of the team struggles on a weekly basis to achieve mediocre. I think it's only Wenger's skill that he had managed to get what he has out of them. Based on the Welbeck affair it sounds like he has little or no control over transfers. If he is off soon, I can see some big trouble on the way. As long as Stan Kroenke is the majority shareholder, Arsenal will be run like a cash cow, and not a football club. For the last decade or so Wenger has managed to achieve both profitability and competitiveness, and when you consider this will likely be his first year outside the top 4 since he came to Arsenal, your really have to tip your cap. But Arsenal will never be a vanity project for Kroenke the way Chelsea is for Abramovich, or City for the Abu Dhabi royals. Missing out on CL money may wake some people up, but the club have no problems filling a 60,000 seater stadium with some of the highest ticket prices in all of Europe. Commercially they're as viable as any of the top handful of clubs in the world. So where is the incentive to buy better players? That said, Wenger has had plenty of money to spend of late. For years we heard it was all about paying off the stadium debt to build the Emirates, which is fine. But since then? They've splashed on Alexis and Ozil, but they've also had some major misses, too (ahem, Xhaka for £30M). They spent £35M for Mustafi and £17M for Lucas Perez. The wage bill is considerably higher than both Liverpool and Spurs. They don't seem to develop academy players anymore. There are some very deep lying issues at the club, and I don't think Arsene is the one to resolve them. Putting aside his tactical naivete with today's game, where he's continually outclassed by managers with far more modest means at their disposal, his transfer record alone is reason to move on. I know it's passe to give all credit to David Dein, but the club just haven't been the same since the board forced him out. Of course the club will never sack Wenger. He's done more for this club than probably anyone since Herbert Chapman (Ken Friar notwithstanding). He had opportunities to leave throughout his career for better situations, but was always loyal to Arsenal. It's sad that a man of his brilliance can't recognize all the ways the game has changed, and has essentially passed him by.
Ken Gargett Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 there is one point i do need to make. the title of this thread should surely read, POSTPONED, not cancelled.
Dimmers Posted May 5, 2017 Author Posted May 5, 2017 16 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: if you top us for the next three then i'll concede it duly noted, thread saved and filed 3 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: the title of this thread should surely read, POSTPONED, not cancelled duly ignored
CaptainQuintero Posted May 6, 2017 Posted May 6, 2017 I think I give then one more year of falling at the final hurdle before big clubs come in and clean out the talent. Rumours are that Madrid and Barca are circling Alli this summer already.
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