Similarities across RE's

[strikethebox7]

First new topic post for me, hopefully its a not a dumb one haha. Just was wondering if anyone has found similarities in RE's across the different marcas. Obviously the vitola's and blends vary greatly, but was curious if people find similar flavors that appear regularly in a regional release regardless of the marca. An example of this is I have found espana RE's to carry a petite robusto size and are often a sweeter profile. Outside of that I have found the asian regional to be spicy across a few different marcas. Still slightly new to RE's so figured I would ask around. Thanks guys!

[earthson]

The vitola often seems to reflect the (perceived) preference of the target demographic. Otherwise, I've found RE to be (way overpriced) excellent representations of their marca, on the average. They're as varied as their marca's blend plus whatever the vitola contributes to the experience.

On the other hand, I've found the EL to share a lot more in common because most of the ones I've had all taste pretty similar... like they were rolled with Nicaraguan tobacco.

[Blakes]

Generally fat and expensive.

[SignalJoe]

I have found the Diplomaticos REs from 20015 (Cuba, Paises Bajos) to be very similar.  

[shlomo]

It's all just rolled tobacco. There is limited amount of variance to begin with.

If you can blindly pick the part of the world that the RA Petit Robusto is intended for, I have a forest of truffles for you to help me find.

[oliverdst]

Dip Cuba and Quai d'Orsay Francia are very different but I had just 2 Dips and 1 Quai.

IMO Quai d'Orsay is much stronger.

If I had read this thread 15 minutes ago I would have a Quai. Now smoking a regular SLR. Maybe tomorrow. 

[canadianbeaver]

Love Spain, Italy, Canada.

Not crazy about German ones.

Find short Robustos irritating no matter where they come from, even Paris, where smoking cigars is awesome.

Understand the tobacco may have the travel bling element to it, but when we travel, we like it.

[Smallclub]

No. REs are generally true to their respective marca. Sometimes they're better than the regular vitolas of the marca, sometimes they're just the same blend in a different vitola.

[BrightonCorgi]

There has been instances where the Marca was going to be one thing and then was finally presented as another.  I forget the example I am thinking of, but it was around 2007 for EU market.  That is to say, when they are rolled, it may not be for any specific Marca at that point.  Habanos promotes as one thing or another to the Distributors with no foundation for it being a particular Marca.

[stinkhead]

8 minutes ago, BrightonCorgi said:

There has been instances where the Marca was going to be one thing and then was finally presented as another.  I forget the example I am thinking of, but it was around 2007 for EU market.  That is to say, when they are rolled, it may not be for any specific Marca at that point.  Habanos promotes as one thing or another to the Distributors with no foundation for it being a particular Marca.

Vegas Robaina Marshals. They were rolled as LGC but there was a trademark problem. The box has a metal plate on it to cover the LGC label.

[losttrailer]

On 5.4.2017 at 5:26 AM, canadianbeaver said:

Not crazy about German ones.

Find short Robustos irritating no matter where they come from, even Paris, where smoking cigars is awesome.

Huh ?! The Bolivar Especiales Nr. 2, SP Escuderos, PL Lonsdales and RA 8-9-8 are sexy as hell

And the RA Belicosos and PL Robustos were amongst the best cigars i ever smoked . . . so no generalization please, Sir

 

+1 on the Short Robustos though

[canadianbeaver]

I am not crazy about the German ones and I have the RA 898's too. Brought back a box of Alam SP RE's and just did not like the profile.

Passed them on to my FOH friend.

And that would be M'am ?

CB

[Fugu]

4 hours ago, losttrailer said:

Huh ?! The Bolivar Especiales Nr. 2, SP Escuderos, PL Lonsdales and RA 8-9-8 are sexy as hell

Agree and disagree on that, LT. First of all, to some extent it's surely a matter of taste. But in general I concur, most Alemanias didn't disappoint, some were truly exceptional - but with one big letdown and that has been the mentioned Escuderos for me. By far the weakest of all so far (may be followed by the Glorias, not sure yet). Every regular SP vitola - and at that time, Molinos and even some Coronas and Bachilleres were still available - trumped that bland volado roll. Everytime I smoked one I asked myself why only I didn't grab a regular stick instead.

Side note - CB is a beaver ...

[losttrailer]

1 hour ago, canadianbeaver said:

And that would be M'am ?

55 minutes ago, Fugu said:

Side note - CB is a beaver ...

Ups, sorry. Didn't get that and had to google . . . if you haven't been to the MIT it must be the other meaning

55 minutes ago, Fugu said:

. . . but with one big letdown and that has been the mentioned Escuderos for me. By far the weakest of all so far (may be followed by the Glorias, not sure yet) . . .

There is a reason it is in the "sexy" and not in the "best smokes" category. Like in real life, sexy does not automaticaly translate to best experience .

Haven't smoked one of the Glorias and probably never will. Not even sure on the Tesoros

[Cubatabaco]

14 hours ago, stinkhead said:

Vegas Robaina Marshals. They were rolled as LGC but there was a trademark problem. The box has a metal plate on it to cover the LGC label.

And I love mine!

I wish I had bought more.

[Cubatabaco]

1 hour ago, Fugu said:

Agree and disagree on that, LT. First of all, to some extent it's surely a matter of taste. But in general I concur, most Alemanias didn't disappoint, some were truly exceptional - but with one big letdown and that has been the mentioned Escuderos for me.

The biggest letdown for me, and even after revisiting several months ago, was the Bolivar Colosales (50 cab). From the beginning, they were one dimensional and bore no similarity, for me, to the Bolivar marca. I may have got a bad batch of sticks. I thought at least I would get 1 good one out of 50...lol. Anyway, this is just my opinion. I have had friends enjoy them though.  

[Fugu]

4 hours ago, losttrailer said:

There is a reason it is in the "sexy" and not in the "best smokes" category. Like in real life, sexy does not automaticaly translate to best experience .

Ok, I see. Well - didn't even turn me on. (to stay in the picture...)

[rhcolbert]

On 4/5/2017 at 0:58 PM, Smallclub said:

No. REs are generally true to their respective marca. Sometimes they're better than the regular vitolas of the marca, sometimes they're just the same blend in a different vitola.

I've got limited experience, but only one regional really seemed to right true (punch Italian). ERDM Baltico was nothing like the choix sups or lunch clubs from the same years.  Got a box of Juan Lopez france (some kind of belicoso I think) that reminding me nothing of the selec 1 or 2.  Asian regionals I've had as well we're the same way.  

A sampling of five to six regionals is not enough of a sample to disagree with you on his point, but I've just not found it to be the case thus far.  

[Smallclub]

9 minutes ago, rhcolbert said:

Got a box of Juan Lopez france (some kind of belicoso I think) that reminding me nothing of the selec 1 or 2.  Asian regionals I've had as well we're the same way.  

?? The Juan Lopez Obus was a sort of weak JL2, but you can't seriously state that Asian REs like the Punch super robusto, RA Estupendos, PL robusto, Bolivar Short Bolivar, PL Encantos, etc, were not true to their respective marcas…

[rhcolbert]

4 minutes ago, Smallclub said:

?? The Juan Lopez Obus was a sort of weak JL2, but you can't seriously state that Asian REs like the Punch super robusto, RA Estupendos, PL robusto, Bolivar Short Bolivar, PL Encantos, etc, were not true to their respective marcas…

Asian RE I had was the RA (figudaro) and it didn't remind me of any RA I had previously.  

I love the JL line.  Right out of the box no age.  The obus was boring and tasted like a cheap NC to me.  Had a box and didn't even seem to improve with age. 

I'll repeat that I've had limited experience so it's not a statistically relevant sample size. Just a anecdotal finding