nathankwok Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Does anyone know the brand of this cigar scissors? I know the photo is not clear but the shape of the scissors is quite unique. Hope someone can identify it LOL Many thanks!
Fugu Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 No idea - but even from the fairly crappy pic, one thing is sure - it's a cheapo. The grinding angle of the blade is way too steep (and too narrow), whole thing appears poorly executed (mass product). With a cutter or cigar scissors you'd want as shallow (=small) and wide a blade angle as possible. That's producing the cleanest and easiest cuts. In a blade with a steeply angled grind, such as in the picture, the cutting edge (in particular that side where the grind is facing the cigar) will be more strongly displaced in the cutting process due to its more wedge-like behaviour. Will be difficult to get a clean cut, in particular in cigars of larger girth. Fancy design () - but essentiually nonfunctional, I'd say. Should you consider buying that one - skip it! Should you own it already - ebay is the way to go.... (and sorry for voicing it so frankly...) Get a decent two-blade cutter instead (good qual to be had at a decent price, even some cheapos do the job) but - if it needs to be scissors - then there really is only one make to consider - Donatus (high qual. at demanding prices). 1
nathankwok Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 1:01 PM, Fugu said: No idea - but even from the fairly crappy pic, one thing is sure - it's a cheapo. The grinding angle of the blade is way too steep (and too narrow), whole thing appears poorly executed (mass product). With a cutter or cigar scissors you'd want as shallow (=small) and wide a blade angle as possible. That's producing the cleanest and easiest cuts. In a blade with a steeply angled grind, such as in the picture, the cutting edge (in particular that side where the grind is facing the cigar) will be more strongly displaced in the cutting process due to its more wedge-like behaviour. Will be difficult to get a clean cut, in particular in cigars of larger girth. Fancy design () - but essentiually nonfunctional, I'd say. Should you consider buying that one - skip it! Should you own it already - ebay is the way to go.... (and sorry for voicing it so frankly...) Get a decent two-blade cutter instead (good qual to be had at a decent price, even some cheapos do the job) but - if it needs to be scissors - then there really is only one make to consider - Donatus (high qual. at demanding prices). Expand Thanks for your reply mate! Your cutting tools analysis sounds very professional. However, I think this is an expensive scissors. LOL I saw this scissors from a well-known and wealthy HK cigar collector's Instagram. I do agree that Donatus made very high quality cigar scissors in the past. I have purchased a pair of Donatus scissors and the quality is not good at all. =(
Fugu Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 1:14 PM, nathankwok said: However, I think this is an expensive scissors. LOL I saw this scissors from a well-known and wealthy HK cigar collector's Instagram. Expand Unless you could provide some better pics, I'll stand by my judgement (apart from the blades, take a look at the alignment of parts, angles, chamfer of edges etc. - cheaply made). And should it indeed be expensive, then it's expensive crap .... On 3/16/2017 at 1:14 PM, nathankwok said: I do agree that Donatus made very high quality cigar scissors in the past. I have purchased a pair of Donatus scissors and the quality is not good at all. =( Expand Buy the original and not the Chinese counterfeit... (just kidding, mate) 2
Stogeyfish Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 Can't really tell from the picture but it looks to be the same style as an "Oh!Val" https://nobdesigns.stores.jp/items/57bd2e5499c3cd0ee80055c8 1
nathankwok Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 2:30 PM, Stogeyfish said: Can't really tell from the picture but it looks to be the same style as an "Oh!Val" https://nobdesigns.stores.jp/items/57bd2e5499c3cd0ee80055c8 Expand YES!!! That's the one!!! Thanks mate!! =) I wanna get one!
Corylax18 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 2:30 PM, Stogeyfish said: Can't really tell from the picture but it looks to be the same style as an "Oh!Val" https://nobdesigns.stores.jp/items/57bd2e5499c3cd0ee80055c8 Expand YIKES!!!! $460? Plus $30 shipping? PASS. The Japanese origin, and ridiculous price do mesh with it being in the possession of a wealthy Hong Kong based collector. For that money Ill go with 6 boxes of PLMCs instead. 4
nathankwok Posted March 16, 2017 Author Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 3:22 PM, Corylax18 said: YIKES!!!! $460? Plus $30 shipping? PASS. The Japanese origin, and ridiculous price do mesh with it being in the possession of a wealthy Hong Kong based collector. For that money Ill go with 6 boxes of PLMCs instead. Expand True! That's a lot of money for a scissors. LOL It's sold out at the moment, so I will use the money to buy cigars instead. =P 1
Fugu Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 4:02 PM, nathankwok said: True! That's a lot of money for a scissors. LOL It's sold out at the moment, so I will use the money to buy cigars instead. =P Expand That's certainly what you should do! But I have to admit - in those studio-pics it looks much better than in your first picture. The pic from cigar cutting, however, again is not convincing as to the finish. Anyway, the blades appear thin and the angle of the bevel grind seems much more shallow than from my first impression. So, may very well be 'working' fine. But the price appears ridiculous, made of Japanese white paper steel, hand-forged or what?.... 1
Popular Post HarveyBoulevard Posted March 16, 2017 Popular Post Posted March 16, 2017 Made from a 500 year old Samurai Katana Blade forged by Hattori Hanzo... 7
mwaller Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 7:58 PM, HarveyBoulevard said: Made from a 500 year old Samurai Katana Blade forged by Hattori Hanzo... Expand Are you kidding?!
Colt45 Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 9:56 PM, HarveyBoulevard said: Yes, I was in fact kidding... Expand No chance - note the hamon! Were to be used for Bill's bris - until he blasted the rabbi. Perhaps because he wasn't Jewish?
mwaller Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 10:03 PM, Colt45 said: No chance - note the hamon! Were to be used for Bill's bris - until he blasted the rabbi. Perhaps because he wasn't Jewish? Expand Oy...!
polarbear Posted March 16, 2017 Posted March 16, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 7:58 PM, HarveyBoulevard said: Made from a 500 year old Samurai Katana Blade forged by Hattori Hanzo... Expand Didn't he swear a blood oath that he'd never make another blade? 1
Dave O))) Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 On 3/16/2017 at 11:58 PM, polarbear said: Didn't he swear a blood oath that he'd never make another blade?Always plenty BIG rats to kill 2
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