UK Referendum

[Akela3rd]

After federal elections in Oz....we haven't had a government for two weeks. 

It has worked better than normal. 

Sounds perfect, wonder how long you can keep it up...

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[gweilgi]

6 hours ago, El Presidente said:

After federal elections in Oz....we haven't had a government for two weeks. 

It has worked better than normal. 

Belgium managed 589 days without an elected government ... and the nation chugged along quite happily.  

An example to be followed, perhaps?

[Pixa]

Sorry to resurrect this old horse but ..

As a direct consequence of the leave vote, Cameron etc bailing out, we have a new Prime Minister, new Treasurer, and a whole new long-term fiscal policy overturning what had been prolthesised as the way to save the country from wrack and ruin.

All I want to say is - we didn't vote for them, they've organised it internally within the Conservative Party and constitutionally it's allowed. And the general populace seems not to have noticed. How f*cked up is that?

But, as I've said before, it doesn't actually matter because they're all the bloody same in the big picture. And having got that off my chest, I'll get on with my life.

You never vote for your government in a UK election you only vote for your local MP. It's something like 50% of our PM were changed mid term it's not uncommon I don't get why people are making such a big deal of it.

The whole political landscape and economy of UK has changed as a result of this vote not surprising there tact has changed, had too.

[smokeyjoe01]

Sorry to resurrect this old horse but ..

As a direct consequence of the leave vote, Cameron etc bailing out, we have a new Prime Minister, new Treasurer, and a whole new long-term fiscal policy overturning what had been prolthesised as the way to save the country from wrack and ruin.

All I want to say is - we didn't vote for them, they've organised it internally within the Conservative Party and constitutionally it's allowed. And the general populace seems not to have noticed. How f*cked up is that?

But, as I've said before, it doesn't actually matter because they're all the bloody same in the big picture. And having got that off my chest, I'll get on with my life.

Labour did the same thing with Blair>Brown, then he made a load of mistakes at the expense of the taxpayer, like selling of gold reserves before the price jumped.

Like you say they're all the same - liars.

[Akela3rd]

You never vote for your government in a UK election you only vote for your local MP. It's something like 50% of our PM were changed mid term it's not uncommon I don't get why people are making such a big deal of it.

The whole political landscape and economy of UK has changed as a result of this vote not surprising there tact has changed, had too.

I do agree with this, but what I'm amazed at is the total u-turn of policy. Either it's been made up on the spot or carefully managed for some time. And yes, you do vote for your local MP but you (should) also vote for the whole party ethos and their stated policies - that's why they have party political advertising nationally.

On a side note - my predictive text just translated "political" as "Pigfish"! That's a bit of a worry...

[Fugu]

22 hours ago, Akela3rd said:

Yes, I'm cynical, but it seems to be the best evidence based explanation for the last few days' manoeuvres.

With your analysis, you are not too far off the mark, I fear.

 

22 hours ago, Akela3rd said:

... while Boris builds his profile higher

This, however, remains to be shown...

[stigmata]

On ‎30‎/‎06‎/‎2016 at 9:16 PM, Ryan said:

No. Any EU citizen can live, work or retire in any other EU country.

People should understand that the EU might not be too eager to install a one-way door in the fence the UK just voted for.

Central to EU policy are the "Four Freedoms". Free movement of goods, workers, capital and services.

From the point of view of an individual country, each of these can be seen from a "flowing-in" and "flowing out" standpoint. So the "Four Freedoms" can be seen as eight principles under EU policy, i.e. Goods (in and out), workers (EU citizens in and out), capital (in and out) and services (in and out),

A very large number of Leave voters voted the way they did due to a disagreement with one of these principles (EU workers in), should they really expect their access to the other 7 to remain unchanged?

Maybe when Boris Johnson becomes PM, he will explain this. I have a feeling Boris would have run for PM if the vote had been for "Remain" as he was expecting. The next PM will have to deal with the decision and the negotiations and that will take someone who values the people who vote for him over his or her own political career.

There aren't many of those around.

But is it building fences and say keeping non eu out?