Cavaliers V Warriors?

[Dimmers]

yeah Cavs just have no answers right now. Kyrie looking especially lost.

And Steph and Klay haven't played especially well, so you know they are due for some human torch breakout games. Im not sure Warriors will even drop a game here.

[cigaraholic]

I think I heard the fat lady from my house last night ?

[JohnInCleveland]

Ain't over til the fat lady sings.  Hopefully she ain't warming her vocal cords for Wednesday night...

[planetary]

1 hour ago, JohnInCleveland said:

Ain't over til the fat lady sings.  Hopefully she ain't warming her vocal cords for Wednesday night...

True.  After last week, Warriors fans above all should appreciate this.

[jmg]

Im from the bay area as well and when the playoffs started, I had Dubs vs CLE in the finals with GSW winning in 6. Actually made a friendly wager on this as well.

It's looking like I gave the eastern conference too much credit. Looks like it'll be a quick finals. May lose the bet, but of course will still be ecstatic when the Dubs repeat

[cigaraholic]

If Cavs don't win tomorrow night they might as well let the fat lady sing the national anthem Friday....

[mk05]

Let's dial this back to what I wrote years ago for MIA playbook. Holding defensive play static, say you need 110 offensive points to win.

LeBron is good for 30

Wade and Bosh were good for 50

The bench had to combine for 30, and they had the talent to do so.

 

Cavs:

LeBron is good for 30

Kyrie/Love combine for 30-40

That means the bench has to put up 40-50, and they simply cannot.

[JohnInCleveland]

The Cavs lost both road games, both of which they were expected to lose.  The Cavs opened as favorites at home, where they haven't lost all postseason.  

Im far from a homer, but this series isn't over.  Yet...Love getting hurt may have been a blessing, he's a disaster matchup wise vs. Golden State.  

[planetary]

32 minutes ago, JohnInCleveland said:

The Cavs lost both road games, both of which they were expected to lose.  The Cavs opened as favorites at home, where they haven't lost all postseason.  

Im far from a homer, but this series isn't over.  Yet...Love getting hurt may have been a blessing, he's a disaster matchup wise vs. Golden State.  

The Warriors beat Cleveland in 2 out of 3 away games in last year's finals, and won both of their regular season games against them this year.  In particular, their game at Cleveland in January was an absolute throttling, 132-98, after which Curry remarked that the visitors locker room still smelled like champagne.  I don't think the Warriors are particularly intimidated by Quicken Loans Arena.

[JohnInCleveland]

1 hour ago, planetary said:

The Warriors beat Cleveland in 2 out of 3 away games in last year's finals, and won both of their regular season games against them this year.  In particular, their game at Cleveland in January was an absolute throttling, 132-98, after which Curry remarked that the visitors locker room still smelled like champagne.  I don't think the Warriors are particularly intimidated by Quicken Loans Arena.

Nobody said they were intimidated, but the Cavs have been a different team at home all season.  A loss in January under David Blatt has no bearing on game 3 in the finals, and neither does last year's record in the playoffs when the Cavs were an entirely different team.

 

i wouldn't be so quick to write off the Cavs from simply going down 0-2, that's all.

 

 

[planetary]

51 minutes ago, JohnInCleveland said:

i wouldn't be so quick to write off the Cavs from simply going down 0-2, that's all.

Put another way, the Cavs would need to take 4 out of the next 5.  It's possible, certainly!  But... 

[JohnInCleveland]

23 minutes ago, planetary said:

Put another way, the Cavs would need to take 4 out of the next 5.  It's possible, certainly!  But... 

one couldve said something very similar when OKC was up 3-1.  Sports are a funny thing, just when you think you've got em figured out, poof, they get turned upside down.  Momentum and adjustments can change at the drop of a hat.  

 

I dont disrespect GS at all (dislike and disrespect are two very different things), but the Cavs have the capability to shoot the lights out of the building too and I've seen plenty of teams overcome odds to BEAT my teams so you never know...

[planetary]

7 minutes ago, JohnInCleveland said:

one couldve said something very similar when OKC was up 3-1.  Sports are a funny thing, just when you think you've got em figured out, poof, they get turned upside down.  Momentum and adjustments can change at the drop of a hat.  

 

I dont disrespect GS at all (dislike and disrespect are two very different things), but the Cavs have the capability to shoot the lights out of the building too and I've seen plenty of teams overcome odds to BEAT my teams so you never know...

In fact I raised that point above!  We shouldn't count the series over.  That said, I think the odds are much better for the Warriors in a "must win 3 in a row against any given team" situation than they are for the any given team (including the Cavs, who are weaker than probably the top 3 teams in the West) in a "must win 4 out of 5 against the Warriors".  

Is it over?  Absolutely not.  Are the Cavs likely to win?  Heck no.

[Memphsdad]

one couldve said something very similar when OKC was up 3-1.  Sports are a funny thing, just when you think you've got em figured out, poof, they get turned upside down.  Momentum and adjustments can change at the drop of a hat.  

 

I dont disrespect GS at all (dislike and disrespect are two very different things), but the Cavs have the capability to shoot the lights out of the building too and I've seen plenty of teams overcome odds to BEAT my teams so you never know...

While I agree that if the Cavs get their shot rolling this series will definitely change alot, I still don't think the Cavs have faced a team in these playoffs with the defensive capability of the Warriors.

I am a warriors fan so I am slightly biased, but I don't understand how anyone could dislike this Golden State team. They are incredibly fun to watch and play with a level of teamwork that nobody else has been close to in a long time.

But hey its sports and it's for fun, it's not life or death.

[JohnInCleveland]

37 minutes ago, Memphsdad said:

While I agree that if the Cavs get their shot rolling this series will definitely change alot, I still don't think the Cavs have faced a team in these playoffs with the defensive capability of the Warriors.

I am a warriors fan so I am slightly biased, but I don't understand how anyone could dislike this Golden State team. They are incredibly fun to watch and play with a level of teamwork that nobody else has been close to in a long time.

But hey its sports and it's for fun, it's not life or death.

Draymond green isn't the most likable guy in the world.  He's the only guy I really dislike, but he does an admirable job of carrying the load.  

 

Spurs and Warriors are better than the Cavs but we'd have beaten OKC, we match up well and consistently beat them.  Nobody wanted them more than I did...

[Memphsdad]

Draymond green isn't the most likable guy in the world.  He's the only guy I really dislike, but he does an admirable job of carrying the load.  

 

Spurs and Warriors are better than the Cavs but we'd have beaten OKC, we match up well and consistently beat them.  Nobody wanted them more than I did...

I can understand the Green dislike, he's the kindof guy you love if he's on your team but hate if he isn't.

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[brutusthebuckeye]

Go Tribe...

[coblos]

Great game from the big 3

Lebron 41 points, 16 rebounds

Irving 41 points, 6 assists

Love 2 points, 3 rebounds

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[JohnnyO]

Varajao should get an academy award for all the flopping he did. Without Green and Bogut's running screens GS 3 point shooting is just a gimmick. Plenty of bricks, GS shot 1/10 in the 4th quarter 3's. Without their linebackers running interference they become average. Oh and I think you guys give Kerr too much credit. He walked into a team that was pretty much set up, once Luke Walton leaves things will change for him. Don't think Cavs can do it because of where game 7 is. Love should be embarrased to cash those checks.

[dinoeggs]

Is the flopping rule still in existence or are they just going to ignore it for the finals? Flopping is one of the main reasons why I stopped watching the NBA during the regular season and why Football(Soccer) turns me off also.

[JohnInCleveland]

It's embarrassing watching Andy on the floor, now that his athleticism is gone and rendered him completely talentless he just flails everywhere and still sometimes gets calls.

Now I know why everyone but us used to hate him.  It hurts the viewing of the game.  They didn't get rid of the flop rule, and he should face a hefty fine before game 6.

 

 

 

[Dimmers]

Looking forward to game 6. Glad we actually have a series here.

9 hours ago, JohnnyO said:

Without Green and Bogut's running screens GS 3 point shooting is just a gimmick.

Cmon mate, thats just rubbish. GS is a historically great team on any measure. Draymond was missed ALOT, but GS missed many looks, some open. They had a shocking 2nd half shooting. It happens. Credit to Cavs defense as well this series.

 

[Memphsdad]

Looking forward to game 6. Glad we actually have a series here.

Cmon mate, thats just rubbish. GS is a historically great team on any measure. Draymond was missed ALOT, but GS missed many looks, some open. They had a shocking 2nd half shooting. It happens. Credit to Cavs defense as well this series.

 

Word. Dubs had an off night, but they didn't get to where they are just by shooting around screens lol.

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[JohnS]

Lebron and Irving scored 40 points each (the first time achieved by two players in a Finals game) and Cleveland won by 15 points. Golden State will be short odds favourites to win game six in my opinion as this statistical quirk is unlikely to be matched two games in a row.

[billh1]

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