egoo33 Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Take it for what it is but this issue has a break down of all the cigars they rated last year and of the top 10 highest rated cigars 7 of them are from Cuba. Why those chose what they did for the number 1 I don't know. You know what they say about opinions...
PuroDan Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I have heard that Fidel Castro personally outbid all of the NC cigar manufacturers in 2013 to secure the #1 rating for the Monte 2 in anticipation of the end of the US embargo and the opening of the US to cc. That very well could be true. You just never know
El Presidente Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Cigar Aficionado magazine will always have my respect as the first truly global cigar magazine. Whether it is a shadow of what it once was is a matter of conjecture. It's influence/place in the modern history of cigars certainly isn't. I am a glass half full sort of person. I appreciate the fact that they are there today and what they have done since 1992. Kudos has to go for any organization that has managed to produce 23 years of a Cigar/lifestyle magazine.
KRunch61 Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 I suspect most of us who hail from the states cut our teeth on (and cigars with) CA magazine. And like many other rites of passage, I'm thankful for the experience and VERY HAPPY to move on.
spicycorona Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Any wine-o will tell you that the more clay/rock and nutrient deficient the soil is, the better harvest you will have when it comes to grapes. They want the grapes plants to struggle for nutrients. What makes that comparison impossible, is the fact that grapes are fruit, and tobacco are leaves. Cuba's soil is volcanic as well???Bigger doesn't mean better. Just because something is bigger doesn't mean its better, or higher in quality. Just like with wine. Does the best grape come from the biggest vine? I have read different things on Cuban soil,that go both ways. One vegueros video doesn't mean its a fact. It could be, but we ought to leave those things to the scientists not the cowboys.
El Presidente Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Any wine-o will tell you that the more clay/rock and nutrient deficient the soil is, the better harvest you will have when it comes to grapes. They want the grapes plants to struggle for nutrients. What makes that comparison impossible, is the fact that grapes are fruit, and tobacco are leaves. Possibly so and I am absolutely no botanist (as my herb garden can attest ) but I have heard the same theory (stress in Cuban tobacco producing unique flavour) expounded by Hector Luis Prieto.
Colt45 Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 What makes that comparison impossible, is the fact that grapes are fruit, and tobacco are leaves. Are not tobacco and grapes both plants?
spicycorona Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Yes they are. But in the simplest of terms, if you are trying to produce foliage, you need a lot of nitrogen. If you want blooms and subsequent fruit, you need limited nitrogen and more phosphorous. Jacking up a tomato plant or grape plant with nitrogen will give you a bush of dark green leaves and less flowers.
Colt45 Posted March 1, 2015 Posted March 1, 2015 Yes they are. Some of the greatest wines (grapes) are produced from the crappiest soil. The same might be said for cigars / tobacco. This might be of interest: Link
JohnS Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 What makes these places special, in my humble understanding, is tempered climate due to wind. This applies to grapes and tobacco. You get this type of climate off the west coast of France, the Barossa Valley in South Australia and of course, Cuba. Now, going back to the original topic, I guess we all have to start somewhere in our journey of knowledge in regards to Cigar Aficionado. They cater for the 'masses'...and we would all agree that in cigar terms, we are not the 'masses'.
Smallclub Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 What makes these places special, in my humble understanding, is tempered climate due to tradewinds. This applies to grapes and tobacco. You get this type of climate off the west coast of France, the Barossa Valley in South Australia and of course, Cuba. There is no tradewinds in the Bordeaux region. The climate is the of the "oceanic" type, when the Barossa Valley has a hot continental climate, no tradewinds there AFAIK.
spicycorona Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 On the OP, I really don't remember putting any stock in CA magazine at all.
NJP Posted March 2, 2015 Posted March 2, 2015 Our southern states have have a big block of ice that causes the Fremantle Doctor in the West and the Southerly Buster in SA and Victoria.
Hunter1974 Posted March 2, 2015 Author Posted March 2, 2015 Cigar Aficionado magazine will always have my respect as the first truly global cigar magazine. Whether it is a shadow of what it once was is a matter of conjecture. It's influence/place in the modern history of cigars certainly isn't. I am a glass half full sort of person. I appreciate the fact that they are there today and what they have done since 1992. Kudos has to go for any organization that has managed to produce 23 years of a Cigar/lifestyle magazine. you might have a point . I guess I am a little bitter because I have humidors full of NCs that I wish I had the money spent on them back in my wallet to buy some CUBANS! BOO HOO lol.
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