The difference between "Customs and Farmies"

[El Presidente]

I was asked the above question yesterday.

Would love to know what your response would be. I will give mine a little later

[Habana Mike]

Customs blended by master rollers at shops/hotels in the homeland (or around the World) with available tobacco, sometimes to order.

Farmies generally rolled at the vegas with the local leaf.

[stogieluver]

Customs are made by plastic surgeons. Farmies are home grown and they are real and they are spectacular!

[persianpirate]

Have wondered about this myself, particularly if the tobacco is fermented in either case.

[Rye]

Customs blended by master rollers at shops/hotels in the homeland (or around the World) with available tobacco, sometimes to order.

Farmies generally rolled at the vegas with the local leaf.

This pretty much sums it up, but you can have "custom farmies" rolled by master rollers (whom prefer not to work for Tabacuba in an assembly line factory), and use hand selected leaves aged by themselves and friends on other farms and blend according to yours or their favorite blends.

Just thinking about this is making me drool.

Excuse me for about an hour or so...

[Habana Mike]

This pretty much sums it up, but you can have "custom farmies" rolled by master rollers (whom prefer not to work for Tabacuba in an assembly line factory), and use hand selected leaves aged by themselves and friends on other farms and blend according to yours or their favorite blends.

Just thinking about this is making me drool.

Excuse me for about an hour or so...

Yes, these sound excellent!!!!! Got any extras?

[mk05]

Customs are any cigars where you are told second-hand of its provenance.

[Laynard]

So far, very informative. I kinda thought the terms meant the same, but I can see the difference in the above definitions.

[Ryan]

The expectation of 'Farmies' is that they are rolled on site at a farm with all tobacco: wrapper, binder and filler, from that farm.

A possible exception would be the use of wrapper from a different farm.

Another definition would be 'what the farmer smokes from his farm'.

That being actually what you get requires a certain amount of faith.

Custom rolls can be rolled anywhere with any cuban tobacco.

Cigars in factories are rolled from tobacco bundles by delivered by a ligador. The ligador or helpers weigh out the types of tobacco for a marca/vitola and the roller rolls from that.

Anything other than that, rolled by a cigar roller, using 'approved tobacco', falls into 'custom rolls'.

The difference between 'custom rolls', 'farm rolled cigars' and 'counterfeits' can be hard to distinguish.

Is a custom roll a custom roll if the tobacco is not approved by Tabacuba, Habanos or a distributer?

Is it a custom roll if you don't know the roller and they never worked for Habanos or Caracol?

[El Presidente]

My response was along the lines below. I had to split Customs into three groups. I am not sure I even got it right in the end as it it is a blurred area.

State Custom Cigars. My definition is a cigar rolled by a current Tabacuba/HSA roller using a variety of tobacco as supplied by the state enterprise.

Privateer Custom Cigars: Cigars commissioned from name or no name rollers by a vendor or individual outside the auspices of Tabacuba/HSA. The tobacco is sourced in the main outside of the State enterprise.

Farm Customs: High quality cigars rolled onsite (finca) using predominantly (but not exclusively) that fincas tobacco. Farm Customs are mostly geared toward sale to visitors.

Farmies: Cigars (ranging in quality) using 100% tobacco from that finca that are rolled and smoked as much for enjoyment by the veguero as well as the occasional visitor.

[stogieluver]

I would consider these to be Farmies...

And the rum was pretty good, too.

[CanuckSARTech]

My response was along the lines below. I had to split Customs into three groups. I am not sure I even got it right in the end as it it is a blurred area.

State Custom Cigars. My definition is a cigar rolled by a current Tabacuba/HSA roller using a variety of tobacco as supplied by the state enterprise.

Privateer Custom Cigars: Cigars commissioned from name or no name rollers by a vendor or individual outside the auspices of Tabacuba/HSA. The tobacco is sourced in the main outside of the State enterprise.

Farm Customs: High quality cigars rolled onsite (finca) using predominantly (but not exclusively) that fincas tobacco. Farm Customs are mostly geared toward sale to visitors.

Farmies: Cigars (ranging in quality) using 100% tobacco from that finca that are rolled and smoked as much for enjoyment by the veguero as well as the occasional visitor.

Agreed with this wholeheartedly. Four-way split

[JohnnyO]

Pres....I would add in order for it to be a custom rolled cigar, the roller must have some classification.... level 8, master roller etc. Hopefully the roller has been rolling for more than 20 years.This roller should be able to do touches away from the norm; barber poles, baseball bats, figurados that molds do not exist etc. Although I might add some old school rollers don't like this. Finally, you can put a face to the cigar. That is to say you know who actually rolled it. Not all are requirements, just some points to guide you. John