kuma Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Maybe some members have had this happen to them while smoking. After lighting up the cigar and puffing on it for a few seconds very little smoke emits from cigar to mouth. Although the draw is great very little smoke is generated to the mouth. At the foot where the cigar is lit there is a lot of smoke desending into the air. This has happened a couple of times in the past couple of years.. Mind you the smokes in question are all high quality habanos (psp / hq) from our great host. In all fairness to our host I have never had a plugged cigar or any construction problems what so ever, truly amazing. I think this has something to do with either the roller / rolling or the way I may have stored these smoke(s) in question. Any help about this situation would be greatly appreciated.
bigharpoon Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Sounds like the cigar may have a hole in it, through the binder and wrapper. When you draw you are actually drawing through the hole not through the lit foot. It has happened to me and gave me those exact symptoms. 2
Smallclub Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Welcome to the world of overfilled cigars that need to be stored at low RH prior to be smoked… This is something you can detect by "feeling" the weight of each vitola. 2
DWC Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Yup! glad to know I'm not alone anymore. I posted about this a little while ago: http://www.friendsofhabanos.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=119825&hl= Great draw, great flavor, just little to no smoke. I don't have any idea but I'm not too worried about it as it happens so infrequently. Dan
... Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Happened to me twice in the past few years. At some point I must have smoked through it and normal smoking experience followed. Don't worry, your next cigar should be fine
earthson Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 One of 3 things, in my experience: Hole in the wrapper/binder which defeats the vacuum-effect needed for a good draw Tobacco is uncured or too moist. Time and proper RH will fix this Asbestos tobacco. I have had some cigars that just won't damned burn. They were stored right for a proper period of time and they still didn't perform. Supposedly DPG had a Nicaraguan Corojo crop several years back that had this problem. It stumped everyone and affected supply for a while. Since you're saying that the "draw is great," I'm excluding an over-filled cigar. Also, since you didn't specify as to whether this was NC or CC: Some poorly made NC don't burn right because the rollers neglect to strip the stem away from the tobacco leaf prior to rolling.
tjohn7 Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 When this happened to me in the past, some BOTLs advised me to keep my sticks at lower RH and that seemed to help.
kuma Posted October 5, 2014 Author Posted October 5, 2014 These were CC's. have not developed a taste for Domin,'s or Nic.'s yet and will in all likely hood will stick with CC.'s. Spoiled by our host with his wonderful quality of smokes.
headstand Posted October 5, 2014 Posted October 5, 2014 Like others have said, hole in wrapper comes to mind given your description of the situation. 1
dicko Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 I've had this once before. With a Dip 2 back in maybe 2010?? Everything felt perfect, smelt good etc. The tiniest wisp of smoke only. Couldn't even finish it.
ramon_cojones Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 This is my most frustrating experience, draw is fine and foot is burning fine but I can't get a good volume of smoke or flavor. I always attributed it to some bad filler/binder that just isn't igniting properly for whatever reason it may be. I've only had this happen with a few d4s ever.
littlepea Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 Same thing happened with an epi 2 yesterday that had been dry boxed for the best part of a week. It happens. Who knew cuban cigars could be inconsistent?!
Mckucci Posted October 6, 2014 Posted October 6, 2014 One of 3 things, in my experience: Hole in the wrapper/binder which defeats the vacuum-effect needed for a good draw Tobacco is uncured or too moist. Time and proper RH will fix this Asbestos tobacco. I have had some cigars that just won't damned burn. They were stored right for a proper period of time and they still didn't perform. Supposedly DPG had a Nicaraguan Corojo crop several years back that had this problem. It stumped everyone and affected supply for a while. Since you're saying that the "draw is great," I'm excluding an over-filled cigar. Also, since you didn't specify as to whether this was NC or CC: Some poorly made NC don't burn right because the rollers neglect to strip the stem away from the tobacco leaf prior to rolling. I would agree with RoRo
EuroTrash Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Check for little tunnels or holes burning down the cigar under the ash. Im not sure if its from faster burning leaf or stems but I get this semi regularly on certain cigars.
... Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 Check for little tunnels or holes burning down the cigar under the ash. Im not sure if its from faster burning leaf or stems but I get this semi regularly on certain cigars. I always assumed this was caused by leaf stems but whenever I have had it, it did not cause the issue described by the OP. Doesn't mean it can't be associated though...
PigFish Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 A tight cigar and loss of smoke is one thing. Lots of draw and no smoke is another! It depends on what tastes you get to define the problem. I am also betting on the loose wrapper/binder, hole theory… Here is something else to check… Your cutter! If this is a recent event, you might be fracturing you cigar head while cutting it… Go get a new cutter or try a different one. You also may be letting your cigars get too dry. While is should not be a taste or smoke related problem, you may find that you have fractures in the wrapper and binder, or again causing them when you cut. To test the cut theory, take the next cigar that you have this problem with, put about an inch and a half of it in your mouth, no we won't call you Monica, and dry drawing on it there. If that seems to solve your problem you have a cutting issue! If the cigar taste off, then it could just be the cigars. Check for tunneling… This happens from time to time and it is the fault of the roller, not yours. You live with it! This is Cuba!!! Hope that helpes. -Piggy
Diamondog Posted October 7, 2014 Posted October 7, 2014 I have noticed this and when you look at the burning ash/ember usually it will have a little hole(s) which I refer to as tunneling....I am still trying to figure out why this happens, Rh? maybe (although I keep things tight at 65-68), poor construction? maybe, my smoking style/lighting style? maybe...very frustrating...
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