"It is going to get worse before it gets better"

[Habana Mike]

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

Great point, makes sense.

Guess I was wishfully thinking they'd scale back on larger cigars in favors of smaller ones.

[LGC]

Who wants more 10ct boxes, at 20 to 50 bucks for a fresh stick? ;-)

[1LegLance]

Well as someone who loves PCs, Minutos and all the little sticks....and enjoys the more obscure Rafeals, Ramons, Sanchos, and such all I can say is....happy happy joy joy if they stop making the tree limb thick sticks of the last few years.

Get back to making great small format sticks that are affordable

[amart]

So what sizes in particular are we looking at?

[Zedman05]

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

I agree with your math, but in a longer and thicker format cigar, like a churchill, you would also need a very large leaf to roll that filler up. So if you are in a shortage of that leaf, as it is harder to find, quality wise, then it doesn't matter if you have all the filler in the world. Plus the binder, or double binders they use would have to be that same larger, longer leaf as well...even though that can be ugly leaf that can be conceiled.

Just a thought

[kuma]

It's a shame the states and Cuba have not repaired relations. The past week I have been working in the

North central part of Conn. and have been driving by huge broad leafed tabac fields which I assume

are wrapper leafs. Quite striking are the leafs in their intense green. Even though I live here I have

never tried a cigar with a Conn. wrapper. Anyone know what this wrapper tastes like?

[...]

Has some sweetness to it and a definitely potent aroma/taste. Quite a few NCs have it on; try samples, it's worth it

[Ryan]

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

I agree with your math, but in a longer and thicker format cigar, like a churchill, you would also need a very large leaf to roll that filler up. So if you are in a shortage of that leaf, as it is harder to find, quality wise, then it doesn't matter if you have all the filler in the world. Plus the binder, or double binders they use would have to be that same larger, longer leaf as well...even though that can be ugly leaf that can be conceiled.

Just a thought

That's it, there's probably no real shortage of shade grown wrapper leaf but a shortage in larger good quality leaves which are always more rare and harder to grow.

I think already people might be noticing a barber-pole effect on the wrappers of some of their larger cigars. Discoloured wrapper leafs on cigars is probably more common now than in the past.