"It is going to get worse before it gets better"

[El Presidente]

"It is going to get worse before it get's better".

That is the word regionally and from Havana when it comes to supply of Cigars for the next 6-8 months. We have heard before that large wrapper leaf is in short supply. Larger formats will be affected most and even some of the mid sized formats such as Robusto/Belicoso. I suspect that some of the slower selling Robusto/Belicoso will be downscaled production wise with the wrapper resources going to the higher selling Robusto/Belicoso

Right now Boli Royal Corona, RASS 25 are few and far between being shipped from Havana.

If there is an upside, then I think you will find better quality wrappers on the smaller formats and more of them.

Let's hope for some great growing conditions this upcoming year. The last two seasons have been tough. They don't need a third in quick succession.

[kwsaw63]

Oh well, guess I should make the most of it and buy more smaller formats to average down the cost of my cigars....

[canucks6024]

Do you think this will affect prices?

[Colt45]

Can't they just use Nic wrapper like usual?

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Can't they just use Nic wrapper like usual?

You mean like on the LEs?

[Fuzz AI]

Can't they just use Nic wrapper like usual?

Or just use more than one wrapper to wrap the cigars! Though if HSA start putting out barber poles, the fakers might get a bit upset their product is being copied!

[Habana Mike]

Not necessarily bad news if they have to scale back on the fatties that have been coming out as of late.

Hopefully I'm stocked for long enough to see this through.

[ehdg]

We'll guess I'll finally be saving money n hopefully smoking down my inventory. Also maybe this will finally get Habanos to quit making the 52 n above RG cigars for a while!

[polarbear]

Hey Prez

When you say "large formats" do you also mean Lanceros and the like or just your 46+rg sticks

[Habano]

Do you think this will affect prices?

Depends on who and where you buy from. Some vendors will likely take advantage of this information to try and increase prices. Others, most likely LCDH's, won't even pay attention to it and make no adjustments to prices at all.

[PigFish]

Maybe these a-holes will think about discontinuing all the smaller sticks now…! Tabacuba business model =

… keep rollers busy, put the smaller sticks on sale, nice 'wrapper shortage promo,' why you can buy two of these for the price of one of…. But what the hell do I know I build my stuff on a model based on making something better and making it cheaper so more people can enjoy it… My concept is really stupid, I know!

Do we have an up-yours emoticon?

-Piggy

[polarbear]

Do we have an up-yours emoticon?

-Piggy

:finger:

[polarbear]

guess not :-(

[PigFish]

guess not :-(

…epic fail!!! -LOL

Nice try though, I got the message! -P

[PapaDisco]

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

[El Presidente]

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

Don't expect any decrease in Behike or Connie A

[Lotusguy]

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

True! In fact, I expect this to affect production of the smaller, less popular vitolas, rather than the donkey d... stuff they have been releasing.

[El Presidente]

True! In fact, I expect this to affect production of the smaller, less popular vitolas, rather than the donkey d... stuff they have been releasing.

True. Send it to ROI + cigars first. the rest can wait.

[Smalls]

Or just use more than one wrapper to wrap the cigars! Though if HSA start putting out barber poles, the fakers might get a bit upset their product is being copied!

I had a JL No. 2 the other day that looked a lot like a barber pole. I wish I would have taken a picture of it. A lot of people here would have thought it were a fake. The contrast in the color of wrapper was striking from top to bottom. I would have been worried myself if the cigar didn't come from our lovely hosts.

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

Darn math problems... I smoke cigars and drink scotch to avoid thinking about things like math problems. The only calculating I like to do is figuring if the amount of scotch left in my glass will be enough to cover the amount of cigar I have left to smoke.

[El Presidente]

I had a JL No. 2 the other day that looked a lot like a barber pole. I wish I would have taken a picture of it. A lot of people here would have thought it were a fake. The contrast in the color of wrapper was striking from top to bottom. I would have been worried myself if the cigar didn't come from our lovely hosts.

Seeing quite a few of them currently

[semifan1]

nothing

[Colt45]

Though if HSA start putting out barber poles, the fakers might get a bit upset their product is being copied!

Counterfeiters gotta eat too!

[mikek]

The area of a cigar (wrapper) is calculated as 2pi x radius x length, whereas the area (filler) is calculated as pi x r squared x length, meaning that on a bigger cigar you're selling relatively more filler and relatively less wrapper (the amount of filler grows faster than the amount of wrapper because volume is calculated off of radius squared ).

Therefore, if Habanos SA wanted to maximize their scarce wrapper, they should actually try to make more large format cigars, not less, and sell them for big cigar prices.

That is true hence all the big cigars! Personaly I get the most flavour out of wrappers that are 50rg and under!

[mikek]

Something kind of pornographic seeing A person with A 60+ RG hanging out of there mouth!

[mikek]

Well we are in some major changes in climate.California is in A sever drought been there for A few years,here Lake Mead has boat docks that are sitting on dry land,and in the mid west crops are not getting enough rain and failing! Unfortunatly it will get worse before it get's better! We dont hear much about climate change in Australia here but I'm shure by now you all have noticed changes! It's affecting everything,from the price of meat to fishing!