El Presidente Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Brought to my attention that on CA we have an impersonation of Dave (Boss Hog), he has been a member here from 2007. I know Dave, have supped and shared a cigar with Dave. A great bloke. Yet again, another member has been impersonated on CA with minimal/negligent CA Mod intervention. Peoples, if you are contacted by a Boss Hog for a trade on any site with a ..yet again Boston MA or Montreal address, let it pass. Same crap, different day/month. Perhaps it is time I released the report publicly of our investigation into the Sept/Oct trading scams on FOH which led to the change in policy. Anyway, be aware. be smart. Cheers Rob
mk05 Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 *Canton, MA EDIT: thanks for clarification Rob. Did not know that there was another impersonator in Boston.
El Presidente Posted August 8, 2014 Author Posted August 8, 2014 No need to edit mate. Boston MA and Montreal shipping addy's. Again. +Canton MA.
Skyfall Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Oh Lord, this guy again!!! Let me loose mate, let....me....loose! 2
groundhog Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I know I'm new here - what's a trading scam - and how do I avoid it?
mncz Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 I know I'm new here - what's a trading scam - and how do I avoid it? What is it: Blokes trying to negotiate/solicit a cigar trade with you in private messaging – in this case under the guise of a trusted member of the cigar community – and receiving your cigars without ever coughing up their end. Example: "Hey groundhog, I know you're new here. I've got some aged cigars that I'd be happy to share with you. Have you purchased anything interesting lately? We can share addresses and get a package out to each other sometime this week." ... "Trade" commences ... You send your cigars ... Nothing ever comes. Perhaps you get ridiculed or further led on/lied to by the scammer – most likely, you will simply be ignored. How to avoid it: Don't arrange trades with any members whom you haven't seen around, enjoyed the posts of, exchanged some words with, and/or established some trust with. It never hurts to ask if you're unsure. As an extra precaution, I generally like to exchange phone numbers if the person is in the same region as myself. This shows good form and further establishes a personal connection. This goes for any online community/commodity. 1
shlomo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Rob, I think you have the wrong Boss Hog being impersonated. The one that was impersonated has a first initial of G and while he is a member here, he is not all that active. The REAL Boss Hog, G, is one of the kindest, most well liked, honest, BOTL I have met. This impersonator is most likely the same scumbag, motherless piece of ****, who impersonated me. 1
Smallclub Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 This impersonator is most likely the same scumbag, motherless piece of ****, who impersonated me. ... and me! (albeit without real consequences)
Othello Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 For what it is worth, this latest scam was conducted off site and by email only. No private messages were actually exchanged on the forum where the victim advertised his goods.
srbbones Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 What is it: Blokes trying to negotiate/solicit a cigar trade with you in private messaging – in this case under the guise of a trusted member of the cigar community – and receiving your cigars without ever coughing up their end. Example: "Hey groundhog, I know you're new here. I've got some aged cigars that I'd be happy to share with you. Have you purchased anything interesting lately? We can share addresses and get a package out to each other sometime this week." ... "Trade" commences ... You send your cigars ... Nothing ever comes. Perhaps you get ridiculed or further led on/lied to by the scammer – most likely, you will simply be ignored. How to avoid it: Don't arrange trades with any members whom you haven't seen around, enjoyed the posts of, exchanged some words with, and/or established some trust with. It never hurts to ask if you're unsure. As an extra precaution, I generally like to exchange phone numbers if the person is in the same region as myself. This shows good form and further establishes a personal connection. This goes for any online community/commodity. Good advice!
leftimatic Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 What is it: Blokes trying to negotiate/solicit a cigar trade with you in private messaging – in this case under the guise of a trusted member of the cigar community – and receiving your cigars without ever coughing up their end. Example: "Hey groundhog, I know you're new here. I've got some aged cigars that I'd be happy to share with you. Have you purchased anything interesting lately? We can share addresses and get a package out to each other sometime this week." ... "Trade" commences ... You send your cigars ... Nothing ever comes. Perhaps you get ridiculed or further led on/lied to by the scammer – most likely, you will simply be ignored. How to avoid it: Don't arrange trades with any members whom you haven't seen around, enjoyed the posts of, exchanged some words with, and/or established some trust with. It never hurts to ask if you're unsure. As an extra precaution, I generally like to exchange phone numbers if the person is in the same region as myself. This shows good form and further establishes a personal connection. This goes for any online community/commodity. Thanks for this. Good things to remember for sure.
canadianbeaver Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Shlomo is absolutely correct. Please delete this thread and start again. PM him or me for info to reach the real one.
Skyfall Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 ... and me! (albeit without real consequences) And me....twice!
shlomo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 ... and me! (albeit without real consequences) And me....twice! Do you guys mean on CA or on here? I remember the ****** on CA, but don't recall anything here at all.
shlomo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 This is the address that the scumbag used: Elias Serodio 1121 Arboretum Way Canton, MA 02021 Anybody in the area feel like checking it out?
Smallclub Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Beat on the brat Beat on the brat With a base ball bat! (the Ramones) 2
Skyfall Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Do you guys mean on CA or on here? I remember the ****** on CA, but don't recall anything here at all. On CA, I've never been a member of CA, but was impersonated twice on there, in a fairly detrimental manner. 1
Skyfall Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 This is the address that the scumbag used: Elias Serodio 1121 Arboretum Way Canton, MA 02021 Anybody in the area feel like checking it out? All addresses and aliases have been checked out.
Maplepie Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 People impersonating Shlomy?!? Well... I guess even Guantanameras have been faked......... Sent by the Enigma on BlackBerry.
Nino Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Dave "Boss Hog" out of DC is a good friend of mine. I've known him for years, been his guest, he's been here many times my guest. I contacted him today and he told me he's totally unaware of anything foul. He's been out of the forums for years. Wrong Boss Hog. Guess the impersonator is the same A**hole that impersonated me as well .... ;-) 1
shlomo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Again, wrong Boss Hog. Didn't know your were impersonated Nino. Here or somewhere else?
shlomo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Dave "Boss Hog" out of DC is a good friend of mine. I've known him for years, been his guest, he's been here many times my guest. I contacted him today and he told me he's totally unaware of anything foul. He's been out of the forums for years. Wrong Boss Hog. Guess the impersonator is the same A**hole that impersonated me as well .... ;-) BS.jpg
shlomo Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 People impersonating Shlomy?!? Well... I guess even Guantanameras have been faked......... Sent by the Enigma on BlackBerry. Yes. Not sure you were on the forums when it happened.
Pixa Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Yes. Not sure you were on the forums when it happened. If it was more than a year ago I am not sure he was out of diapers 2
Boss Hog Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Gentlemen, Unfortunately, I am the one that was recently impersonated by some thief who proceeded to steal from a fellow brother. Based on Rob's initial post, I gather that there are two of us on these forums with similar handles/usernames. Just to clarify and avoid any further confusion, I use the same handle and avatar on all of the cigar forums that I frequent.
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