Thursday Thoughts

[CaptainQuintero]

[potpest]

Really interesting point made; everyone is quick to point out injustice, but less keen to get involved when it involves a personal sacrifice.

[SaintLuis]

Love it.

[stunod]

That is unbelievable, but I can see it.

[Fosgate]

[Philski]

Knowing that area quite well, there are plenty of alkies, tramps and vagrants who come to beg - my immediate reaction was 'walk on by' - he seemed more like a down and out who had been beaten up.

The first one is very thought-provoking.'F*ck the Poor' is in your face and confronting, whereas 'Help the Poor' is wheedling and helpless. It's interesting how each taps into a different emotion.

[AndrewNR]

Brilliant.. Makes me wonder if all those kony12 activists are enjoying their hiatus etc.. Like all the people filming incidents on phones instead of calling for help or god forbid helping

[polarbear]

Great

Very interesting

[cigcars]

Truly telling and convicting. Yet, for those who would help, and I've seen this occur...things happen to Good Samaritans that are no doubt the inspiration for that saying, "No good deed goes unpunished." You try to help and YOU can get jacked up. On the other hand it is unconscionable to leave an injured person where they are without trying to help them too. For myself I deal with those situations by standing by a little ways away, calling the necessary authorities, and when they arrive point them to the injured dude or dudette on the ground. That way SOMETHING was done. There was an elderly lady across the street from me who needed help constantly. The times I voluntarily went over there I finally ceased, but would call 9-1-1 when she was in severe straits. My reason for this? I've known about too many experiences with daffy old bats and codgers who when you do spend time with them helping, then leave...the second they can't find some of their crap they want to blame YOU for "walking off with" which just ain't the case with little old me, anyway. Their stuff will be right there in their house, but they can't locate it and want to have you accused, jacked up, annoyed, searched because they figure you took it. Nobody's got time for that shite. So I do EVERYTHING to not get involved, but I WILL get some kind of help to them another way. Then I saw a man on one of the television talk shows who was in a wheel chair because - they saw a woman nearly falling over an embankment. He and his son went to help. He and his son lost their footing and fell. They saved her - but his son was killed and he ended up in a wheel chair - trying to help. I know how callus I sound but I'm telling you - I'd be a mad ASS with a life long attitude problem if that were ME. I want to emphasize, I won't walk away. I'll do what I need to do to get help to a distressed person within reason. And despite my statements earlier I've gotten involved, hands on, numerous times in my life despite the reasoning some people may have for not.

[Jeremy Festa]

Awesome!

[CaptainQuintero]

Truly telling and convicting. Yet, for those who would help, and I've seen this occur...things happen to Good Samaritans that are no doubt the inspiration for that saying, "No good deed goes unpunished." You try to help and YOU can get jacked up. On the other hand it is unconscionable to leave an injured person where they are without trying to help them too. For myself I deal with those situations by standing by a little ways away, calling the necessary authorities, and when they arrive point them to the injured dude or dudette on the ground. That way SOMETHING was done. There was an elderly lady across the street from me who needed help constantly. The times I voluntarily went over there I finally ceased, but would call 9-1-1 when she was in severe straits. My reason for this? I've known about too many experiences with daffy old bats and codgers who when you do spend time with them helping, then leave...the second they can't find some of their crap they want to blame YOU for "walking off with" which just ain't the case with little old me, anyway. Their stuff will be right there in their house, but they can't locate it and want to have you accused, jacked up, annoyed, searched because they figure you took it. Nobody's got time for that shite. So I do EVERYTHING to not get involved, but I WILL get some kind of help to them another way. Then I saw a man on one of the television talk shows who was in a wheel chair because - they saw a woman nearly falling over an embankment. He and his son went to help. He and his son lost their footing and fell. They saved her - but his son was killed and he ended up in a wheel chair - trying to help. I know how callus I sound but I'm telling you - I'd be a mad ASS with a life long attitude problem if that were ME. I want to emphasize, I won't walk away. I'll do what I need to do to get help to a distressed person within reason. And despite my statements earlier I've gotten involved, hands on, numerous times in my life despite the reasoning some people may have for not.

I know what you mean, my gf works in dementia/Alzheimer's care and official rules for some things are terrible because of what you said eg:

If a patient is falling you shouldn't try to catch them incase you injure them then you/the hospital can get sued. You should let them crash to the hard floor.

If a patients heart stops or need CPR, you can't incase you break their ribs and you get sued. Unofficially the advice given to her for this situation is 'walk out the room and pretend you saw nothing' to protect yourself because you're damned if you try to help and damned if you follow procedure.

Official policy is to go ring for an ambulance and do nothing, leave a patient on the floor and don't touch.

This is how our culture treats it's most frail and needy.

Someone once asked Gandhi:

What Do You Think of Western Civilisation?

He replied:

I Think It Would Be a Good Idea

[cigcars]

I know what you mean, my gf works in dementia/Alzheimer's care and official rules for some things are terrible because of what you said eg:

If a patient is falling you shouldn't try to catch them incase you injure them then you/the hospital can get sued. You should let them crash to the hard floor.

If a patients heart stops or need CPR, you can't incase you break their ribs and you get sued. Unofficially the advice given to her for this situation is 'walk out the room and pretend you saw nothing' to protect yourself because you're damned if you try to help and damned if you follow procedure.

Official policy is to go ring for an ambulance and do nothing, leave a patient on the floor and don't touch.

This is how our culture treats it's most frail and needy.

Someone once asked Gandhi:

What Do You Think of Western Civilisation?

He replied:

I Think It Would Be a Good Idea

I'll tell ya what, Cpt. Quint...that kind of law/requirements IRK me. I just broke my arm in front of my house last month in all that ice and snow that kept coming, refreezing, and coming again. Don't think those crazy-seeming rules didn't occur to me while I was struggling to recover and couldn't...I would have DIED if the nice young man across the street didn't eventually show up and come to put me back on my feet so I could at least get out of the snow, the cold, the HIGHLY uncomfortable position I was in, etc. I've worked part-time security in just such an environment, and while I see their point in some respects, I just can't see me doing NOTHING to get some poor someone out of further dangers' way. And let them hang/sue/fire me.

[potpest]

Someone once asked Gandhi:

What Do You Think of Western Civilisation?

He replied:

I Think It Would Be a Good Idea

Brilliant...