CaptainQuintero Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 This thing is old… I've said it before: this is one of the most ridiculous piece of snobbish cigar folklore. Forego the pleasure of the fumar a crudo and the possibility to check the draw is just idiotic. What's next? Lighting blindfolded, or with flint and twigs? So true, I don't usually go for this type of post but..that video is exactly the type of reason why cigar smokers are looked at negatively in the UK. It's hard enough as it is; if you light a cigar in public people view you as if you've just had a hard days work watching your butler drowning peasants in your private lake, never mind adding this type of nonsense on top of the stereotype. The fake (and poor) attempt at a posh accent, the grand gestures and hand waving, the whole smarmy ritual of setting yourself apart from everyone and showing them just how special you are, it stinks. Christ knows the UK cigar scene is bloated enough with self absorbed windbags as it is without encouraging this crap! Thank God there is a steady underground of botl growing here, real people who love tobacco instead of the idea of being some cliche throwback to Victorian times where having a cigar means you are billy big bollocks and everyone should now and scrape to you. Rant over! 3
johnhenry Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I remember seeing snobs during the boom use cedar sleeves to light there cigars. I thought the smoke from the wood smelled good while burning but when I tried it I thought the flavor of the smoke that went into the cigar was quite off putting .
Laynard Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Cut, predraw, toast, light, enjoy. Repeat as necessary.
straizor Posted February 6, 2014 Author Posted February 6, 2014 So true, I don't usually go for this type of post but..that video is exactly the type of reason why cigar smokers are looked at negatively in the UK. It's hard enough as it is; if you light a cigar in public people view you as if you've just had a hard days work watching your butler drowning peasants in your private lake, never mind adding this type of nonsense on top of the stereotype. The fake (and poor) attempt at a posh accent, the grand gestures and hand waving, the whole smarmy ritual of setting yourself apart from everyone and showing them just how special you are, it stinks. Christ knows the UK cigar scene is bloated enough with self absorbed windbags as it is without encouraging this crap! Thank God there is a steady underground of botl growing here, real people who love tobacco instead of the idea of being some cliche throwback to Victorian times where having a cigar means you are billy big bollocks and everyone should now and scrape to you. Rant over! haha too funny but agree a 100%
Cigar Surgeon Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I'm new to CC's but have been smoking NC's for about 15 years And have never heard someone mention lighting first then cutting. I'll stick to cutting first. Nice to meet you! I've been smoking for .. 9 years now? And I've always done a pre-light / toast, cut / punch and then light.
Smallclub Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Nice to meet you! I've been smoking for .. 9 years now? And I've always done a pre-light / toast, cut / punch and then light. And what's the benefit of the pre-light toast with an uncut head? (the cigar's head not yours )
Cigar Surgeon Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 And what's the benefit of the pre-light toast with an uncut head? (the cigar's head not yours ) As it was originally explained to me when I started smoking (and I really should do a taste test) you're using much hotter temperatures for the initial light than when you're drawing. As we all know, you always try to avoid drawing too fast on a cigar because it can make it bitter and harsh. Lighting with a cut cap can result in the hot gases being drawn into the cigar. If you pre-toast / pre-light prior to cutting, then when you light you're drawing at more normal temperatures. Is it true? I should do some tests to see but I've always lit my cigars that way.
mrbritish1976 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Cut first check draw/taste then torch Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
sw15825 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Cut, cold draw, hold in hand and toast til lit with torch lighter, check its lit, smoke.
Smallclub Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Lighting with a cut cap can result in the hot gases being drawn into the cigar. If you pre-toast / pre-light prior to cutting, then when you light you're drawing at more normal temperatures. I think it makes sense if you toast gently. I've seen people use their torch as if they were US Marines in Okinawa… 1
andrprosh Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I cut, but then cover the cut with my finger tip while lightning.
DrunkenMonkey Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I light the cigar with a flint and steel, making sure the sparks hit the cigar exactly in the middle of the foot. It takes about 6 hours to light the cigar, but it's impressive as hell. 1
ramon_cojones Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I can't find anything snobbish about doing this ritual in the privacy of one's own home and see nothing wrong with it. As far as lighting i never puff on it while lit, just roast the foot, blow on it if needed and puff occasionally.
Cigar Surgeon Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I light the cigar with a flint and steel, making sure the sparks hit the cigar exactly in the middle of the foot. It takes about 6 hours to light the cigar, but it's impressive as hell. Do you make the flint yourself or buy it in a store?
ptrthgr8 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Do you make the flint yourself or buy it in a store? <sigh> One doesn't make a flint. One knaps a flint. How unsophisticated of you to not know that. Cheers, ~ Greg ~ 1
jacktarnold Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I've done it a few times when I started but you end up having to pitch anything with too tight of a draw because you can't do Ron's refrigerator trick.
GnarlyEggs Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I have for sure heard about toasting before, never tried it myself. I will have to give it a try one of these days. I Cut then light by habit as it is, will have to try to remember before i cut to toast!
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