El Presidente Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 The fact they were Partagas Shorts peeved me no end.....I have had a great run with shorts for many years and they are a staple. However this one box of mine...each cigar burned as if it was holding onto its smoke like Ken holds onto cardboard boxes. The burn was ragged , the construction fine, yet the smoke nothing more than a whisp. I am not the most patioent of soles...chucked the first out after 10 minutes. The second out after 5 minutes. The third after 3 minutes. Each and every bloody one over the course of a week thrown out bar the last three of which two I pulled apart. From what my limited CSI abilities could work out is that no one put in any volado and the seco was average at best. Having another Short from a different box now and thankfullly it is spot on. My faith restored.
mk05 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 What was the box code? Maybe the roller had a massive hangover that day.
El Presidente Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 What was the box code? Maybe the roller had a massive hangover that day. Buggered if I know. It was one of mine !LOL! I have a fair idea of how it happened having spent plenty of time in the rolling rooms. 20000 shorts quota to be produced that day in the factory. 1500 to go and they run out of Volado. It's 2pm already. No problem...just use what you have in the blend and get the quota done.
rckymtn22 Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 What was the box code? Maybe the roller had a massive hangover that day. Box code does not matter as the cigars are placed in the boxes by colour not on who rolled them. Unless most of the rollers are having a bad day.
pwhite Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 I hope it was just a bad box. Shorts are my "go to" smoke. Especially early in the day with a cup of coffee.
mk05 Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 Buggered if I know. It was one of mine !LOL! I have a fair idea of how it happened having spent plenty of time in the rolling rooms. 20000 shorts quota to be produced that day in the factory. 1500 to go and they run out of Volado. It's 2pm already. No problem...just use what you have in the blend and get the quota done. LOL exactly. I had heard this is why some people don't buy BHKs. QC guys looking over rollers' shoulders while they put the 4 leaves together, but sometimes they'll leave out a medio tiempo by accident. Rcky, I am very well aware of the QC process. I meant that as a whole, per that boxcode, you would have a bunch of bad sticks distributed into the lot of good ones if one roller had a bad day/week. The point was that the cigar was rolled improperly by somebody for some reason - was a joke in general.
isa Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 Lol! I remember doing something like that once, i threw away around 3 cigars(tried each for 5-10 min) i think, before i had one that was ok - dont remember which vitola though
Ken Gargett Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 The fact they were Partaas Shorts peeved me no end.....I have had a great run with shorts for many years and they are a staple. However this one box of mine...each cigar burned as if it was holding onto its smoke like Ken holds onto cardboard boxes. The burn was ragged , the construction fine, yet the smoke nothing more than a whisp. I am not the most patioent of soles...chucked the first out after 10 minutes. The second out after 5 minutes. The third after 3 minutes. Each and every bloody one over the course of a week thrown out bar the last three of which two I pulled apart. From what my limited CSI abilities could work out is that no one put in any volado and the seco was average at best. Having another Short from a different box now and thankfullly it is spot on. My faith restored. the boxes of which he speaks are wine boxes - trust me, i need all i can get. they are very useful. seriously? that is today's best shot? as someone mentioned at yesterday's tasting, i have not had a fight with qantas or telstra or anyone for ages. i am really overdue. i'm really needing a target. and 'patient of soles'? really? allow me to out the boot into that one.
amosnaim Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 Prez, You should have bought HQ... If you need, I know a guy in Aussie...
Marker Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 The last Party Short I had was atrocious. The couple before that underwhelming. I just can't get into them in general. Not with the BPC are so much above them for my taste. Also never had a bad BPC yet so that is a huge bonus.
bassman Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 Stick with BCJs. I've been through a few boxes from 2010 & 11. Not a bad one yet.
Daidemo Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 With Shorts you are really in a hit-and-miss situation. Usually I am getting 4-5 cabs per year and half of them are OK but there are many just too harsh (not one dimensional). In my case I see the problem with not properly mature material rather than lack of volado/seco. I still have some boxes of Monte 3 and 4, Bolivar PC, Le Hoyo du Prince from 1998-2000 rolled with just one type of leaves. They are always there in my “especial humidor” for poseurs who doesn’t know anything about cigars and just want to smoke something called Cuban experience.
Scdalak Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 Glad I grabbed a PSP Box from you last winter on a LFTH, they are sticks of beauty!! Heavenly smokes sent from the Tobacco Gods themselves.... I have about half left, would you like to buy them back at cost???
PigFish Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 The Party Short has always been an iffy cigar (mho). The Party 3P Coronas was always the better choice. Of course, they don't make them any more!!! While I like the good ones and like many of you smoke them regularly, there were and still are some better choices. -Piggy
headstand Posted June 24, 2012 Posted June 24, 2012 Stick with BCJs. I've been through a few boxes from 2010 & 11. Not a bad one yet. Will I can't say that I have never had a bad one, overall I would agree. Go BCJ +1
Yoruba Hacker Posted June 25, 2012 Posted June 25, 2012 Box code does not matter as the cigars are placed in the boxes by colour not on who rolled them. Unless most of the rollers are having a bad day. Yes. Box codes don't matter. For bad or for good.
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