Bolivar question

[smokebus]

So I just had my first Bolivar last night. It was a #1 Tubos. I can't say I loved it - not bad, great burn, but maybe too cedary and one dimensional? Also, I smoked after eating grilled salmon smoked on a cedar plank, so who knows how that was affecting my taste buds.

Just curious if I should expect this from the BPCs or BRCs.

Thanks

[Ginseng]

Preceding a cigar with a fatty, strong tasting fish like salmon is not a good idea in general. Savory food, okay. But fish? Doesn't work with cigars.

Wilkey

[Orion21]

I agree, you have to be very thoughtful about food and cigars. I made a FATAL mistake last year and lit up a BHK52 while I was eating some spicy food. The food totally ruined the cigar and I got nothing out of it. I was so disappointed and mad at myself.

[Smallclub]

I don't see smoked salmon as a problem; in my experience this Tubos No1 is one of the less interesting Bolivar.

The PC has much more depth and strenght, the RC has a much wider variety of flavors and a better texture.

[Ginseng]

Right on. A nice steak, medium hot chili. All good stuff. Surprisingly, sausage and beer also good.

Wilkey

[Ginseng]

Well, none of the Bolivar tubos are particularly interesting to me at least so I don't consider it a waste. Smoke a Coronas Junior or Gigantes after oily, smokey salmon and that IS a waste. But unless you routinely try different foods (not just drinks) with cigars, you won't have a sense for what works and what does not. I commonly eat or snack along with a cigar when given a chance. Especially in the warmer weather.

Wilkey

[cigcars]

I LOVE Gyros and I always ask for extra onions. So I know what that's going to do to my taste buds as far as my beloved cigars! As for the Tubo Bolivars - thank you all for verifying my view of them. They may be great cigars but the flavor is soooo - meh!

[Nate31]

I am generally not a fan of tubos cigars. I know in a box cigars are exposed to cedar but Ive always found tubed cigars (wrapped in cedar) to be dull and taste too much like cedar. It doesn't help if the cigar is kinda bland in the first place.

[Scdalak]

I agree, you have to be very thoughtful about food and cigars. I made a FATAL mistake last year and lit up a BHK52 while I was eating some spicy food. The food totally ruined the cigar and I got nothing out of it. I was so disappointed and mad at myself.

Oh man that was one costly error!!! :dollarsign:

On the bright side it wasnt the 56!!

[dB69]

I agree with Ginseng - no fish before a cigar.

Maybe an ERdM would be the best marque if you must have a cigar after eating fish. (Or an RG perhaps.)

[Colt45]

I imagine that the fattiness / texture of salmon might blunt the flavor of a cigar smoked immediately afterward. But there are a few

fish I'd probably have no problem following with a cigar - tuna, cod, trout, haddock (any white, flaky fish), swordfish, mako....

I imagine less likely fish might be things like bluefish, mackerel, sardines (but I've not tried those either).

When it comes to any kind food, I think that perhaps types of sauces might also have an impact (I think this holds true with wine selection

as well).

It might just have been the cigar

[Lotusguy]

IMO, not much flavor in any of the Boli tubos to destroy - they are the weakest ones of the bunch...

[winelover]

I found barbecued tuna steak does no harm if accompanied by plenty of decent wine or beer and then a cigar.

[sighuber]

Smoking after a very oily fish might require some pallet cleansing before smoking. Cedar plank salmon may be one of those. I've enjoyed cigars after tuna, grouper, halibut, etc and not noticed any negative effects.

I don't usually smoke while eating. I would be interested to learn more about cigar food pairings.