michael69 Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I have the chance to get hold of a box of these. was 2000 a good year for the 898 v's? Are they likely to be as good as the 01's I missed out on in today's LFTH? (darn it!) Really grateful for anybody's experiences/thoughts on this. I've PM'd Rob and Smithy about this as well. Cheers, Paul
thechenman Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 2000 is generally considered a tough year for CCs in terms of construction, but who is really to say. There are plenty of BOTLs out there who have had great cigars from the Cigar Boom era. However, I would think that your chances of getting a dud would be higher from this time period...if the price is right, I'd still go for it as they have some real nice age on them. Sometimes in life, you just have to take somce chances. Who knows, you may be rewarded for it.
shrink Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I wouldn't even consider buying a box from this year. Overall, a disappointing year, and the risk of tight draws in a 43 ring guage were increased by the high number of inexperienced rollers at the time. A panel of Habanos experts, convened in Havana during the 2008 Festival, unanimously judged the 2008 Partagas 898's to be superior to 1998's which were kept under ideal conditions. When you consider that the best Partagas 898's have been from 2006 on, why buy anything else?
PigFish Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I would consider '00 but it depends on price. While enjoying 898NV I had a poor overall experience with the 898V from '98. While I would thoroughly enjoy the good ones there were a lot of duds in the mix. I was buying EMS cigars, distributed by H&F at the time. I would not pay a premium due to the stigma of the year. While the stigma has merit, it is not sufficient in my mind to prejudice my opinion about the entire period, but as a good shopper I am happy to use such information to my advantage. If the cost of the cigars is in the neighborhood of current production, I would buy current production. If I could get a sweet deal, then I would take the chance. -Piggy
traded Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I have to say that this discussion is making me a bit concerned about the wisdom of grabbing the 01's from yesterdays vintage offerings. Should I be concerned? d
thechenman Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I have to say that this discussion is making me a bit concerned about the wisdom of grabbing the 01's from yesterdays vintage offerings. Should I be concerned?d Not if you liked the price you paid for them...
Erm310mce Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I have to say that this discussion is making me a bit concerned about the wisdom of grabbing the 01's from yesterdays vintage offerings. Should I be concerned?d I wouldn't be concerned at all. Those boxes yesterday looked amazing and you have Rob and Smithy hand picking, congrats on your pickup
michael69 Posted March 23, 2011 Author Posted March 23, 2011 That's really useful info; thanks guys! I have a list of all this seller's available box codes to choose from; below is a sample of the things I'm considering, starting with the available 898's. Which would you choose? or more importantly which would you avoid!? I'd be really grateful if you could have a quick scan of the list; has anybody smoked from any of these boxes? Partagas 8-9-8 (Varnished) Box 10 ERO DIC 09 Partagas 8-9-8 (Varnished) Box 25 PAR JUN 00 Partagas 8-9-8 (Varnished) Box 25 MOS MAY 09 Partagas 8-9-8 (Varnished) Box 25 ERO NOV 09 Partagas 8-9-8 (Varnished) Box 25 MUA ABR 09 also: Cohiba Coronas Especiales Box 25 MEL SEP 08 Cohiba Robustos Box 25 TEU MAY 10 Cohiba Robustos Box 25 PER JUN 10 Cohiba Robustos Box 25 LRE ABR 10 Cohiba Robustos Box 25 EMA NOV 08 Cohiba Robustos Box 25 URG MAY 10 Cohiba Robustos Box 25 BOS MAY 10 Cohiba Siglo IV Box 25 LBT DIC 09 Cohiba Siglo IV Box 25 LBT NOV 09 Cohiba Siglo IV Box 25 LTR NOV 09 Cohiba Siglo IV Box 25 MOA NOV 09 H.Upmann Connoisseur No.1 Box 25 LSM JUL 08 H.Upmann Connoisseur No.1 Box 25 LSM OCT 08 H.Upmann Connoisseur No.1 Box 25 LSM SEP 08 H.Upmann Connoisseur No.1 Box 25 MOA FEB 10 H.Upmann Magnum 48 box 25 RAS AGO 09 H.Upmann Magnum 48 box 25 OPM JUL 09 H.Upmann Magnum 48 box 25 MOS AGO 09 H.Upmann Magnum 48 box 25 LRE JUL 09 H.Upmann Magnum 48 box 25 GLP AGO 09 Montecristo Sublimes Box 10 USE DIC 08 Montecristo Sublimes Box 10 URO DIC 08 Montecristo Sublimes Box 10 SOA DIC 08 Montecristo Sublimes Box 10 LRE ENE 09 Montecristo Sublimes Box 10 TEB DIC 08 Montecristo Especiales Box 25 ASB SEP 06 Montecristo No.2 Box 10 MPE DIC 09 Montecristo No.2 Box 25 OPM ENE 10 Montecristo No.2 Box 25 MOA MAR 10 Partagas Lusitanias Box 10 LSM ABR 08 Partagas Serie Du Connaisseur No.3 Box 25 TEB OCT 07 Romeo Y Julieta Cazadores Box 25 OTS AGO 09 Romeo Y Julieta Cazadores Box 25 OTS ABR 10 Trinidad Fundadores Box 12 AGR JUN 10 Trinidad Fundadores Box 12 AGR MAY 10 Trinidad Fundadores Box 24 OUR OCT 08 Trinidad Fundadores Box 24 OUR NOV 08 Trinidad Fundadores Box 24 OUR JUL 07 Trinidad Fundadores Box 24 OUR DIC 08 Vegas Robaina Maestros Box 10 EMA OCT 07 Vegas Robaina Unicos Box 25 MGA AGO 10 Vegas Robaina Unicos Box 25 MGA JUN 10 Vegas Robaina Unicos Box 25 MOA FEB 09 Vegas Robaina Unicos Box 25 USE NOV 08
PigFish Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I have to say that this discussion is making me a bit concerned about the wisdom of grabbing the 01's from yesterdays vintage offerings. Should I be concerned?d I have specifically not looked at the price to keep my bias out of it. We are all different people mate and that bleeds across, value, taste, politics... and even whom we consider to be beautiful. If you want the cigars and think that this might be your last opportunity to find them why second guess yourself? There are some people that rain on '01 vintage cigars. Frankly the best lonsdales that I have consistently ever experienced were '01 Upmann lonsdales and '99 and '00 Party Seleccion Privadas. While I find it true that '01 did have some issues with plugged cigars I have found that '01 lonsdales have been some of the best cigars that I have ever smoked. This is a generalization based on my empirical experience and my love for lonsdales and it won't affect the taste of the cigars that have your name on them, not one iota. Are they worth the money? That is up to you and the seller but no one is going to be able to tell you whether the cigars are good or not. One thing that you know for sure; they have 10 years of age on them and if you think that the age will positively affect the cigars then you are 10 years closer to your goal. -Piggy
bassman Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Cohiba CEs MEL SEP 08. My first box is so good I bought two more of this code.
traded Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Thanks to all who replied to my threadjack. Piggy, I wanted to give you a special shout out. You laid down some sage perspective. Thank you brother. d
El Presidente Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Get them to check the box you are looking at and comment upon it. Aged boxes are interesting animals. Some are brilliant, some average and some are poor (and often passed over for a reason). Box codes mean zilch.
michael69 Posted March 23, 2011 Author Posted March 23, 2011 Get them to check the box you are looking at and comment upon it. Aged boxes are interesting animals. Some are brilliant, some average and some are poor (and often passed over for a reason). Box codes mean zilch. that's good advice, thanks Rob. I'll definitely do that
CanuckSARTech Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Hot damn!!! "The Pig" is having some great comments today! Shiete!!!! What's up, Ray? Did you bump your head and suddenly turn into a rational person again!?!?!! Some very great comments from you today - kudos man!!!
PigFish Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Hot damn!!! "The Pig" is having some great comments today! Shiete!!!! What's up, Ray? Did you bump your head and suddenly turn into a rational person again!?!?!! Some very great comments from you today - kudos man!!! The air is thin up there mate and due to that I forgive your bouts of hypoxia! The PigMan is a rational man.... man! -LOL I just call 'em as I see 'em my friend. Thanks for the kudos. -Ray
PigFish Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 Thanks to all who replied to my threadjack. Piggy, I wanted to give you a special shout out. You laid down some sage perspective. Thank you brother.d No sweat amigo... That's what friends are for. I will check the price now so I can get Rob to send me my 10%!!! -LOL (just kiddin') -Piggy
SCgarman Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 I can't wait to try one of these 898s. I have one in the humidor which was gifted to me and just have not fired it up yet. Will I become an 898 convert? Time will tell.
BonVivant Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 I wouldn't even consider buying a box from this year. Overall, a disappointing year, and the risk of tight draws in a 43 ring guage were increased by the high number of inexperienced rollers at the time. A panel of Habanos experts, convened in Havana during the 2008 Festival, unanimously judged the 2008 Partagas 898's to be superior to 1998's which were kept under ideal conditions. When you consider that the best Partagas 898's have been from 2006 on, why buy anything else? I beg to disagree (the only excuse is that it was hand picked by a close friend): 1998 Partagas 898 Varnished:
mkz Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Partagas Lusitanias Box 10 LSM ABR 08 The ones I´ve smoked have been smooth and tasty
armedak Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 I would suggest asking the vendor what he would recommend out of your choice of boxes.
thechenman Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 I beg to disagree (the only excuse is that it was hand picked by a close friend):1998 Partagas 898 Varnished: Beautiful looking smokes...absolutely gorgeous.
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