bassman Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Well folks, today I smoked a 2000 RyJ EX#2. That means I've now smoked every EL released from 2000 through 2007. With the exception of the Partagas & Hoyo Piramides when fresh, all others had a common EL taste to me. Is my palate shot or do others feel this way too?
stargazer14 Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Now to wait for anyone else who has smoked every EL to answer this question... Good work Bassman. I hope you didnt smoke them all in one afternoon, if so, then even I can answer your question!
cigcars Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 *The Bolivar Petit Pyramide EL was very potent and strong. You need to talk to PigFish about his take on EL's. He and I don't agree at all on certain politics but I trust his judgement when it comes to good havana smokes! Rub the lamp now and call "Oh Piggy - Piggy? Thy wisdom is sought in this matter for a forum member needing thy guidance!"
Van55 Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Well folks, today I smoked a 2000 RyJ EX#2. That means I've now smoked every EL released from 2000 through 2007. With the exception of the Partagas & Hoyo Piramides when fresh, all others had a common EL taste to me. Is my palate shot or do others feel this way too? I haven't smoked anywhere near all of them, having stopped investing in them after I concluded that they all tasted much the same -- with a common molasses tinge throughout and not a ton of complexity (by which I mean evolution from one puff to the next). I think my last purchase of them was the PL Robusto -- maybe the Cuaba whatever it was. Haven't smoked ANY of late, and the ones I have smoked were mostly quite young. An exception is the PSD3 which, after 6 years of age or so remained a very potent smoke but had lost the molasses taste and developed a bit of complexity.
Guest rob Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 In my opinion, more often than not they do have a similar profile - as if they were a marca unto themselves. Even my favourites among them had this profile; these being the Cohiba 2006 Piramide and a couple of the Partagas releases. After having bought every release for the better part of the last decade - I havent bought any for years. I find the overwhelming majority boring and unimaginative.
joeypots Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I lost interest in the ELs with the 2004 releases. I have a few REs but have stuck to buying mostly regular production since 2006. With the increase in the quality of cigars for the last five years or so I find I don't want to spend the extra $$ on special cigars. I don't think all of the ELs taste the same but I do think there are similarities of ELs with in brands. Any one smoke a Cohiba DC EL lately? Are they past their prime? At a peak? Need more time? Never any good any way?
Dbone Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 My EL experience is limited to Hoyo Regalos, Bolivar Petit Beli, Upmann 48, and Monte Sublime. Bolivar and Upmann do share a heavy dark sweetness to them. The Hoyo and Monte not so much. The Hoyo was woody and creamy, the Monte spicy and leathery. Not nearly the amount of sweetness in the Hoyo and Monte and they where more complex.
thechenman Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I haven't smoked all the ELs, but from what I have smoked, I would say that there is some similarities, but not to the degree that you found. Most are pretty distinct to me.
dicko Posted March 17, 2011 Posted March 17, 2011 ive only had a few but they seem to have a chocholate element to them
PigFish Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 If they made cigars from horse ****... they would sport and EL band! Thanks for the kind words Janet. The old Pig has smoked a few cigars, this is true, but I am really sharp when it comes to politics!!! That, guns, genetically altered farm animals, how to spend $10,000 in man hours to store $1,000 worth of cigars... If it smokes, shifts, shits or shags, I am your man. I am a legend in my own mind!!! -Piggy
frenchkiwi Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 based on limited smoking of more recent ELs I would say common elements are: sweetness, cocoa, and generally, darker wrappers than your average habano. repeat limited smoking experience... i have never bothered with a whole EL box only singles.
adic88 Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Smoking the final stick from a HDM EL 2004 box i've nursed since 2005. Truly amazing cigar. Tons of sweetness, thick syrup, dark vanilla and an aroma that defies belief. Outstanding. Watch out for my video review soon.
El Presidente Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 In the LE's the common feature is the wrapper. I have come to expect a certain sameness to the flavour profile but there are (to me anyway) significant flavour differences to most. That is not to say they represent the Marque's flavour characteristics.
Superbad Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 In the LE's the common feature is the wrapper. I have come to expect a certain sameness to the flavour profile but there are (to me anyway) significant flavour differences to most. That is not to say they represent the Marque's flavour characteristics. Rob, Are you saying they use the same wrapper for most of the LE's? I haven't had many of the LE's, I actually prefer to get the RE's if I am buying not normal production sticks.
El Presidente Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 Rob,Are you saying they use the same wrapper for most of the LE's? I mean the same formulae/DNA. If you go back to the Mag 48 (which I enjoy) back to the Monte Sublimes, Cohiba DC, etc etc the wrappers follow the same charachteristics/profile. I don't have too much doubt that they are coming from the same region/recipe albeit crops differ year to year. The R&J LE's of recent times buck this trend somewhat. They are all over the place. No idea why. If you go back to the R&J Hermoso No 1 & 2 etc they followed the profile of the other LE's. Just an observation from someone who has a lot of time on his hands
Superbad Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 I mean the same formulae/DNA. If you go back to the Mag 48 (which I enjoy) back to the Monte Sublimes, Cohiba DC, etc etc the wrappers follow the same charachteristics/profile. I don't have too much doubt that they are coming from the same region/recipe albeit crops differ year to year. The R&J LE's of recent times buck this trend somewhat. They are all over the place. No idea why. If you go back to the R&J Hermoso No 1 & 2 etc they followed the profile of the other LE's. Just an observation from someone who has a lot of time on his hands I appreciate the insight. Keep up the good work. Now to get to Brisbane sometime in the future....
PigFish Posted March 18, 2011 Posted March 18, 2011 In the LE's the common feature is the wrapper. I have come to expect a certain sameness to the flavour profile but there are (to me anyway) significant flavour differences to most. That is not to say they represent the Marque's flavour characteristics. You mean flame retardant and as supple and as flavorsome as oriented strand board? Okay... that's unfair; maybe 80 grit emory cloth!
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now