Augusta Predictions.

[Wil]

Adam Scott the best of the Australians so far, tied for 12th at -3. Mickelson is looking good.

[El Presidente]

  laficion said:

Ross, Thanks for playing the devil's advocate Also, I'm far from being a golf fan myself

If he has marketed himself as a virtuous man it's because his entourage,

his advisors and the society in which he lives, has told him or made him understand that

that's what people want to hear, over and over.

I can't agree on that one Guy

He is not a kid. He is a brilliant sporstman and a corporation. He chooses how he wants to be portrayed, which "marketing angle" he takes. He took the Nike money and ran the superman/superhuman line. I saw the new Nike commercial this morning with Tiger staring at the camera and his (dead) fathers words being played in the background. It made me sick to the core. There is nothing he nor his marketing team will do, no depth too low.

That is just my opinion. Many will disagree and that is fine.

[jsaunders9]

  El Presidente said:

I can't agree on that one Guy

He is not a kid. He is a brilliant sporstman and a corporation. He chooses how he wants to be portrayed, which "marketing angle" he takes. He took the Nike money and ran the superman/superhuman line. I saw the new Nike commercial this morning with Tiger staring at the camera and his (dead) fathers words being played in the background. It made me sick to the core. There is nothing he nor his marketing team will do, no depth too low.

That is just my opinion. Many will disagree and that is fine.

I agree 100%. Did you notice his wife has been seen quite often sporting Nike logo's head to toe since the "reconcilliation"?

Comming soon to a broken marriage near you........Nike marriage counselling.

[bunburyist]

  El Presidente said:

I can't agree on that one Guy

He is not a kid. He is a brilliant sporstman and a corporation. He chooses how he wants to be portrayed, which "marketing angle" he takes. He took the Nike money and ran the superman/superhuman line. I saw the new Nike commercial this morning with Tiger staring at the camera and his (dead) fathers words being played in the background. It made me sick to the core. There is nothing he nor his marketing team will do, no depth too low.

That is just my opinion. Many will disagree and that is fine.

I can see that dead dad advert producing about a gazillion youtube remakes...

[DrunkenMonkey]

  El Presidente said:

I can't agree on that one Guy

He is not a kid. He is a brilliant sporstman and a corporation. He chooses how he wants to be portrayed, which "marketing angle" he takes. He took the Nike money and ran the superman/superhuman line. I saw the new Nike commercial this morning with Tiger staring at the camera and his (dead) fathers words being played in the background. It made me sick to the core. There is nothing he nor his marketing team will do, no depth too low.

That is just my opinion. Many will disagree and that is fine.

You know, I completely agree with you; It is BS, and it's all decided by marketing people. But I don't understand why he shouldn't do whatever maximizes his earnings. If he's a corporation, as you say, this comes under 'maximizing shareholder value'. Is it more hypocritical than Exxon commercials touting all their 'investments' in renewable sources of energy, if in actuality they've spent more on the ad campaign than on the research? Or on their commercials telling us what a great 'corporate citizen' they are, even as they continue to refuse to pay for the cleanup of the Valdez spill in Alaska? Is Tiger Woods more or less of a hypocrite than Exxon?

[El Presidente]

  DrunkenMonkey said:

Is Tiger Woods more or less of a hypocrite than Exxon?

He is pretty much the same albeit Exxon has never asked for Media Privacy to handle personal issues

[Guest rob]

If I may -

Discussions like this, about the man and his character, show me how far removed I am from all the drama his infidelities caused.

Because quite frankly, I dont give a ****. Not one iota.

I just want to see every shot or putt he ever takes on a golf course.

Once he signs the card at the end of the round - I dont really care what he does till he tees it back up on the first hole in the next round.

[El Presidente]

  rob said:

If I may -

Discussions like this, about the man and his character, show me how far removed I am from all the drama his infidelities caused.

Because quite frankly, I dont give a ****. Not one iota.

I just want to see every shot or putt he ever takes on a golf course.

Once he signs the card at the end of the round - I dont really care what he does till he tees it back up on the first hole in the next round.

I agree. Through his latest add...he is making his Character the issue.

[Colt45]

  rob said:

Discussions like this, about the man and his character, show me how far removed I am from all the drama his infidelities caused.

good thing nobody mentioned the steroid rumors.......

[laficion]

  El Presidente said:

I can't agree on that one Guy

He is not a kid. He is a brilliant sporstman and a corporation. He chooses how he wants to be portrayed, which "marketing angle" he takes. He took the Nike money and ran the superman/superhuman line. I saw the new Nike commercial this morning with Tiger staring at the camera and his (dead) fathers words being played in the background. It made me sick to the core. There is nothing he nor his marketing team will do, no depth too low.

That is just my opinion. Many will disagree and that is fine.

Rob,

I'm not in any disagreement with you on this, I also find it disgustful.

Tiger Woods and how he markets his image is not my concern. all I'm saying

is that society will buy any BS you throw it's way as long as it looks clean

and pure with any and all virtuous repenting persons or companies, being Exxon for

polluting with a straight face or Woods who now will tell you that the only use of his

tool will be for pissing.

Where in the world can you see a girl like Paris Hilton, who has done NOTHING in the

world of culture or the arts, become a " celebrity". If Tiger Woods was just playing great

golf, he would be nowhere today. WELL , then who is buying all this BS that is functioning

sooo well ??

[El Presidente]

  laficion said:

Rob,

Where in the world can you see a girl like Paris Hilton, who has done NOTHING in the

world of culture or the arts, become a " celebrity". If Tiger Woods was just playing great

golf, he would be nowhere today. WELL , then who is buying all this BS that is functioning

sooo well ??

You are preaching to the converted my friend I don't watch commercial TV, I loathe the cult of celebrity.

I do wonder if we are in the minority or it is what the media wants us to believe. Either way the end result is the same. Continuous drivel and pap be it tacky reality shows, paper thin news broadcasts or soft porn MTV aimed at 7-15 year olds.

I have just had enough. Woods isn't being hounded by a media circus he is the circus ringleader in this instance.

End of my rant for the week

[smll2]

It's been six months since Tiger played in a golf tournament....and 6 years since he played in a golf tournament without lipstick on his lucky underwear....so I don't know where he will end up at Augusta....stolen from Jimmy Kimmel....

[DrunkenMonkey]

  El Presidente said:

I agree. Through his latest add...he is making his Character the issue.

...or rather, Nike is making his character an issue.

[Bartolomeo]

Good to see Philly Mick win yesterday, good story all around

Surprised how well Tiger played with all of the time off and hoopla

This picture flew over Augusta right before Tiger teed off on TH

[PADDYWHACK121272]

  Wil said:

I'll take Phil Mickleson to win.

Tiger, Stricker and Allenby to finish top ten.

Good call Wil - hope you managed to put a few bob on it....