Spartan Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 according to this blogger that is http://cigaradvisor.blogspot.com/ Found it to be somewhat interesting...so is Habanos SA brutalized by the castro regime?
Colt45 Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Though somewhat misguided (in my opinion), I simply take this as one person's opinion. The statement "In many ways, the cigars created by the aforementioned are every bit as Cuban as a Havana Partagas Serie D or Montecristo No.2." I consider pure fallacy.
armedak Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 So when are we going to boycott Chinese imports?? Ask the Tibetans about human rights We embargo Cuba because we can do so without impacting our economy much.
Rogers72 Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Read the note at the bottom...the writer works for the "nation's leading online discount retailer of imported premium handmade cigars." That nation is the U.S. and those premium handmade cigars that his company is trying to sell aren't Cuban.
Jesuscookies Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 This blog brought to you by Famous smoke the largest online retailer of cigars in the USA. Hmm..???
laficion Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 As much as I respect his opinion and that of others, I don't see the reason why he's trying to justify the fact that he's not smoking cubans and the need to write it on a blog. Nobody is forcing him. Maybe the other reason is that he's not sure of himself and the fact of putting it into words makes him feel a little more sure of himself.
Padrino Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 I really enjoy some bloggers, they love to get on their high horse and pontificate about morals and rights and everything else under the sun. I guess he forgets about the cheap child labour that made his sneakers/shoes/shirt/etc. in some impoverished Asian country......
Shelby07 Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 This writer is the senior copywriter for Famous Cigar. I wonder if he's one of the guys who writes all of those informative and factually correct articles about the great cigars on their web site?
SamuraiJack Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 Dudes like this love CC's but try SO HARD to convince themselves otherwise.
anacostiakat Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 He is a friggin' idiot and anyone who listens to him is an idiot.
FlyFishingDude Posted April 6, 2009 Posted April 6, 2009 He is a friggin' idiot and anyone who listens to him is an idiot. But tell us how you really feel.................
Fuzz AI Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Opinions are very much like @$$holes. Everyone has one, and we should all be old and wise enough to know that not everyone wants to see our @$$hole. That's just my opinion.... Now excuse me while I pull my pants back up...
El Presidente Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 The art of a competent writer is to opine after balancing the issues at hand. Where is the balance here? In a stroke of a pen the vegueros, the rollers, the workers of the Cuban cigar industry (and their passion) is consigned to Cuban government complicity. Spend time with them and he will find what a fallacy that premise is. I don't think I have ever slammed NC cigar makers. The Padrons, Fuente's, Oliva's, Torano's have my utmost respect. Why is it that others find it necessary to diminish the work of my friends in Cuba without ever having the temerity first to walk their fields, watch them as the clasp and study a leaf, break bread at their house and listen, argue, ponder their world of tobacco? Opinion without knowledge of what you speak is a worthless commodity.
Shelby07 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 It's a sales pitch. Kind of like a Chevy dealer telling you why you shouldn't buy a Ford.
Jimmy2 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Now i will chime in the person who wrote that is an Ass whipe and does not know **** and i will say as i have always said that CC are better than NC and they will never have one thing that they want and that is Cuban soil to grow their tobacco !!!! Rob if you need me to bash them i will do it for you as i love to as they are jealous little bitchies man i love drinking it get the blood flowing...
sliver54 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 I would take this with a grain of salt and leave it at that. This is an individual who has a venue to voice his opinion and is clearly doing so. The thing I take issue with in his blog is that he refuses to buy CC's because of the mistreatment of the workers in Cuba. Fiction or not, point taken... However when he says "And anyone who actually believes that Cuban cigars are superior to all other handmade cigars, is seriously misguided" then it's a sure sign that it is a sales pitch to drum up sales for the company he is affiliated with and all credibility is lost. Why is the construction of many NC's as good if not better than many CC's out there? Because of Cuban torcedors or rollers who learned from them. But ask why the flavor just isn't the same and the complexity missing? Because of the soil. It's no secret that the SCHIP tax has him and many other vendors as well as manufacturers very worried, and rightfully so (we all saw how temperamental Rocky Patel was in that video). But don't blow smoke up everyone's ass by saying that they're not superior.
Jimmy2 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 One more thing before the US embargo these NC companies could have never existed and will be bye bye with in 5 years after the embargo is gone.Mark my words they have every thing to lose if the embargo ends and thats a fact.... While there are only a couple of NC owners that i truly respect (as i have had long talks with them about Cuba and it was all positive) i wish them the best when the embargo is over but the rest can go bottom down for all i care they are a bunch of phony ass whipes.
Spartan Posted April 7, 2009 Author Posted April 7, 2009 ...The thing I take issue with in his blog is that he refuses to buy CC's because of the mistreatment of the workers in Cuba. Fiction or not, point taken... However when he says "And anyone who actually believes that Cuban cigars are superior to all other handmade cigars, is seriously misguided" then it's a sure sign that it is a sales pitch to drum up sales for the company he is affiliated with and all credibility is lost... yup! that's what I thought zeroed him right out.
Guest RobertU Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 The dude works for Famous Smoke Shop, which is a mammoth cigar retailer here in the greater Philly region. Obviously, they sell only non-Cuban cigars. But, for me, there is more to it than just self-serving BS. The post speaks to an attitude here in the US that I am personally tired of hearing. People act like Cuba and Cuban culture consists of nothing more than a bunch of useless dupes - being crushed by an egomaniacal dictator - who can't wait to escape to the US. Hell, forums that cater to NC cigars refer to Cuba as ISOM - Island south of Miami - which more or less relegates Cuba to being an insignificant chunk of land that just happens to be positioned near the US (and just happens to make great cigars, I guess). It's a very Amero-centric perspective that is shared almost reflexively. I'm not saying Castro is right, or is a good guy, or that there aren't issues. I'm just saying a little nuance and balance - and even respect for Cuban people - would go a long way. There is little to none of that among US cigar smokers, in my experience anyway. As for his comments about "government" operating an industry...well, I sure as hell wish the banks and mortgage and auto companies were run as well as the US Post Office. Right now, isn't the government about the only entity in the US that is growing and hiring!? Oh, the irony. I'm tired of the knee-jerk BS of the bulk of the US-based cigar community. They need to grow up and get some perspective. Anyway, /rant. That's why I spend most of my online cigar forum time here!
FlyFishingDude Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Well, in all seriousness, the writer has spoken like a true "Richard Cranium" = "**** Head" , 300.00 for a box of cigars, gimme a break. But here is what caught my eye and I quote "I think its fair to say that many of the manufacturers would like to see the embargo lifted, if only to blend their cigars with Cuban tobacco. Maybe when that happens, I'll buy a Cuban cigar. But realistically, I'd say the Cubans have a lot of catching up to do first". His whole rant was about CC's and why we shouldn't buy them (and why NC's are just as good) but states the NC's manufacturer's wouldn't mind if the embargo lifted was to blend their cigars with cuban tobacco. Marketing ploy here, so they can call their "Dog Rockets" cuban and sell them at a premium price.
semery74 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 according to this blogger that is http://cigaradvisor.blogspot.com/ Found it to be somewhat interesting...so is Habanos SA brutalized by the castro regime? Did you check out the commentary? All but one agreed with his myopic statement. https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=77...225590601810853
Evo03 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 As for his comments about "government" operating an industry...well, I sure as hell wish the banks and mortgage and auto companies were run as well as the US Post Office. Right now, isn't the government about the only entity in the US that is growing and hiring!? Oh, the irony. I'm tired of the knee-jerk BS of the bulk of the US-based cigar community. They need to grow up and get some perspective. Anyway, /rant. That's why I spend most of my online cigar forum time here! I think the US Post Office is 3 billion in the red for 2008
smk819 Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 Where is his outrage about the way Daniel Ortega treats the people of Nicaragua? The Sandanistas are good and gentle souls, I think not. He has no problem selling Nics.
habone Posted April 7, 2009 Posted April 7, 2009 The nations leading online discount retailer of imported premium handmade cigars won't ever see a dime from me. How about that for a free market!... LEEGALIZZE IT!!! Yeah, marijuana too. When is it gonna end... It better happen in my lifetime.
laficion Posted April 8, 2009 Posted April 8, 2009 The worst part of this sad story is that I've tried to write a comment on this blog and twice they censored It. Not only are they throwing a lot of BS to the new young smokers but also doing away with freedom of expression. Who did he say the DICTATOR was ????
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