Which Attributes Do You Most Favor In A Cigar


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» For me:

»

» A proper draw / construction

» flavor

» balance

» depth of mouth feel

On a scale, with my limited experience, I prefer:

1) Flavor

2) Balance

3) A proper draw / construction

4) Depth of mouth feel

I taste beer with the same criteria, except #3 of course. That is replaced by: Meets BJCP guidelines / Proper Carbonation

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Number 1 2 and 3 to me is construction, a cigar that doesn't draw or burn well -to me- it's just not worth burning a match.

After that it's flavour, complexity and not having bitter taste or aftertaste. To me most non cubans give me that bitterness, maybe it's a subjective thing :confused:

If all checks are ok on the above I could ask for balance, if it taste bad or it's badly constructed, how could I ask for balance?!

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» For me:

»

» A proper draw / construction

» flavor

» balance

» depth of mouth feel

I would also agree with these 4 in that order. I will add that I find it important for a cigar to keep me interested and shift gears- whether it be body and/or flavor.

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Construction / craftsmanship - it doesn't have to be a difficult vitola but it should be lovingly made

Finesse - this could be a simple blend that is perfected or a complex blend that changes gracefully.

Aroma - so much of smoking it is smelling it

Flavor - seems if the first three have been taken care of, number four will take care of itself

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» As Taino has suggested, I think to a degree they all kind of go hand in

» hand.

»

» I love complexity as well, but my thinking is that as long as a cigar

» is flavorful enough, I can still enjoy it without being bored.

Oh I agree with you. This really is true when you factor in ROI. With lower priced sticks that you like to go to. I can enjoy them while not really worrying about ageing or cost.

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» Complexity, to me, can make a good cigar great/exceptional, but not a necessity for me to enjoy the experience.

I agree with this assesment. Construction/Draw, flavor and mouth feel provide most of my pleasure as my pallate is still learning to recognize and discriminate the complexity when it is present.

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1) draw - this makes or breaks a cigar

2) burn - along with draw, poor burn qualities will ruin it for me

3) flavor - no specific flavor, just has to have one, and something enjoyable and/or interesting

4) lack of bitterness and ammonia

5) thin ring gauge - I occasionally venture up to a 48, but not often

I don't even know what "balance" and "mouth feel" really mean.

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» I don't even know what "balance" and "mouth feel" really mean.

I hope I can articulate my thoughts on this -

For me, balance is how the various elements that make up a cigar's profile interact. Does one

element dominate, or are all elements integrated and in harmony.

As an example, let's say a cigar has a core flavor of leather with a fruity / floral overlay. But

it also has a very strong element of black pepper, throwing off the overall balance.

I would describe mouth feel as the sensation of weight or density on the palate. When I think of

depth, I think of a cigar cut cross-wise. Do I get the sense of weight from the core all the way out

to the edges, or do I sense weight just from a single layer.

I would say the former has good depth while the latter has little.

Others may have better ways to explain.

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1. Flavor!

2. Acceptable delivery of said flavor.

A cigars appearance, general burn, etc. do not make or break a cigar for me. I have had exceptional cigars with poor burns, ugly wrappers, imperfect (but acceptable) draws. But I have had many cigars whose had everything in spades except flavor. Beautiful, drew well, lots of thick smoke coating the palate (mouth feel, for me anyway, can be a bonus, but only if its something that feels really good.) Performed perfectly but what flavor there was resembled ass.

Construction is important, but nothing comes close to flavor's weight for me.

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1. Flavor.

This may be a cop out but the way I see it: all other issues only matter in relation to flavor. A bad draw can force you to overheat the tobacco, killing the flavor. The amount of smoke you get affects the flavor. But I have had hard draws with thin smoke that were still very enjoyable smokes since it worked for the strong flavor coming through.

After flavor, all flavors being equal, it goes:

2. Draw (I prefer open)

3. Burn (not having to touch up is nice, more relaxing)

4. Visual impact (sometimes a cigar, due to the wrapper and the construction, is almost too beautiful to light up. Almost.)

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» » I don't even know what "balance" and "mouth feel" really mean.

»

» I hope I can articulate my thoughts on this -

»

» For me, balance is how the various elements that make up a cigar's profile

» interact. Does one

» element dominate, or are all elements integrated and in harmony.

» As an example, let's say a cigar has a core flavor of leather with a

» fruity / floral overlay. But

» it also has a very strong element of black pepper, throwing off the

» overall balance.

»

» I would describe mouth feel as the sensation of weight or density on the

» palate. When I think of

» depth, I think of a cigar cut cross-wise. Do I get the sense of weight

» from the core all the way out

» to the edges, or do I sense weight just from a single layer.

» I would say the former has good depth while the latter has little.

»

» Others may have better ways to explain.

Makes sense. Thanks Colt!

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  • 2 weeks later...

As for me,

1) I don't know how many good smokes were ruined by a bad draw...............I could taste the smoke.....but the the inadequate draw ruined it......or I hade to puff until I turned blue to get a good mouthful..:-(

2) A good burn is also necessary.. I have also had a few that required eternal torching and fixups...

3) Obviously, flavor is always necessary.

Cheers,

Jay

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