El Presidente Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 You have the opportunity to invest in a non Cuban cigar operation (yes...why bother but bare with me ) You have to execute a puro. You have quaaltiy tobacco, rollers, infrastructure, packaging, marketing. Ignore political risk for the time being. Let me put three questions forward. 1. Which tobbacco would you use (Dominican/Honduran/Nicaraguan/Equadorian/etc). Remember...it must be a puro. 2. Why 3. The three sizes you would produce.
habanablue Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 » You have the opportunity to invest in a non Cuban cigar operation » (yes...why bother but bare with me ) You have to execute a puro. » » You have quaaltiy tobacco, rollers, infrastructure, packaging, marketing. » Ignore political risk for the time being. » » Let me put three questions forward. » » 1. Which tobbacco would you use » (Dominican/Honduran/Nicaraguan/Equadorian/etc). Remember...it must be a » puro. » » 2. Why » » 3. The three sizes you would produce. 1. Nicaragua 2. Some Nicarguan's are the closest thing I've smoked to a Cuban 3. Robusto, Toro, Double Corona for the American market.
Colt45 Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 » 1. Which tobbacco would you use » (Dominican/Honduran/Nicaraguan/Equadorian/etc). Remember...it must be a » puro. Honduran » » 2. Why I've smoked Dominican, Honduran, Mexican, and Nicaraguan puros, and overall, to my taste, the Honduran offered the most flavor complexity. » » 3. The three sizes you would produce. This is the toughest - I'd prefer five... Dalia / Churchill (I know, three) Corona Gorda Parejo
Guest rob Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 Nicaraguan. Consistent. Supply. Consistent. Corona. Corona Gorda. Robusto.
Claudius Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 » non Cuban cigar operation » You have quaaltiy tobacco LOL, that was funny, Rob! BTW, you've been hitting the bottle (not sure which, but min. 80 proof) again, I can tell from the way you spell "quality". :-D
Ken Gargett Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » (yes...why bother but bare with me ) okay, first, please tell me that was innocent and not some sad freudian slip. next, i can offer no worthwhile view re the tobacco - simply seen far too few non cubans to know. sizes - why only three? but if limited, agree with jimmy on robusto and PC but then would like a biggie. DC is obvious. that said, if kicking off something like this then it might help to have something that attracts attention, as in something a bit different to the norm. perhaps a siglo vi replica, a don rodolfo? prhaps they could be saved for the inevitable limited editions?
scroggers Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » 1. Which tobbacco would you use -- Nicaraguan » » 2. Why-- In my opinion they make the best wrapper(nicaraguan corojo) and that is the most important part of the stick to me. » » 3. The three sizes you would produce. 1. lancero 2. robusto 3. Torpedo
Fishhound Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » 1. Which tobbacco would you use? Nicaraguan » » 2. Why? Aside from Cubans they are producing the best cigars, IMHO » » 3. The three sizes you would produce. Robusto, Torp, PC's and Corona Gordas (sorry I won't be limited to three sizes)
kmax Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 If you could procure great Dominican wrapper Id go with a dominican Puro. Otherwise Nic would be my choice. Size would be PC, Robo, Double Corona would probably be a good size spread.
sje Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 great question, NIC - because they are currently the second best cigars in the world Robusto No 2 Torp DC (with a big attempt to get Ligerro from Cuba)
n2advnture Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 1.) Nicaraguan for sure! 2.) Nicaraguan puros have come the closest to cc's that I've been able to find (the tatuaje rj21 reserva in particular) 3.) Personal favs: lonsdale, corona gorda, pc Best marketing sizes? belicoso, robusto, pc I hope this helps ~Mark
Rogers72 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 1.) Nicaraguan 2.) All the reasons mentioned above 3.) Petite Corona, Robusto, Pyramide (dalia if I get a fourth)
tigger Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 1. Nicaraguan 2. Many of the better Noncuban cigars out there are Nic puros, a la Padron and Pepin Garcia/Tatuaje. Flavorful, substantial tobacco... 3. Dalia, Robusto, Piramide
ucla695 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 1. Nicaraguan 2. Besides other reasons mentioned, they taste so dang good. 3. PC, CG and Figurado
Matthew Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » You have the opportunity to invest in a non Cuban cigar operation If I'm investing, I couldn't care less about anything but sales volume and profit margins. A lot of that is tied to packaging. Since good quality is a given: I make robustos in 10-ct gold foil-lined boxes. I'd issue culebras in coffins (like the current Partagas Culebras); every non-Cuban smoker I know thinks these are the greatest and think they are worth $50 US per coffin. An aluminum foil wrapped diadema.
harryleech Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » You have the opportunity to invest in a non Cuban cigar operation » (yes...why bother but bare with me ) You have to execute a puro. » » You have quaaltiy tobacco, rollers, infrastructure, packaging, marketing. » Ignore political risk for the time being. » » Let me put three questions forward. » » 1. Which tobbacco would you use » (Dominican/Honduran/Nicaraguan/Equadorian/etc). Remember...it must be a » puro. » » 2. Why » » 3. The three sizes you would produce. 1. Nicaraguan; I don't have a lot of experience with NC's but I've already smoked a few Nicaraguan Puro's and they're not bad. 2. Why? Closest profile to Cuban that I've had, (but still doesn't manage it I'm afraid.) But if you take them as something completely different in it's own right it's not bad at all. I've heard it said that the microclimate (soil, weather etc) in their tobacco growing regions are the closest to Cuba, but having never been to Niaragua that's only second hand info. 3. The three sizes that I would produce... Purely from a marketing perspective I think I would go with the following (presuming I could go with only three): i) Piramide (Montecristo No.2 etc) ii) Campana (Bolivar Belicoso fino etc) iii) Petit Piramides (RyJ Petit Pirimide EL'05 etc) The reasoning being consistency in message if I were launching a new puro; lots of boring reasons behind it that I won't get into. What I would launch if I were making a line to suit what I wanted would be totally different!
strayvector Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 How about coming completely from left field and targeting those seeking lighter bodied cigars? 1. Sumatran puro 2. Because it would be the only one out there 3. go with the most popular sizes: PC, Robusto, and no.2.
brooklyn Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 1.Nicaragua 1.a. Costa Rican maduro wrapper 2. robustos,churchill,pyramid
brooklyn Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 My filler /wrapper combo choice lends itself to a superior flavor and fine smoke. I would smoke Honduran only if I wanted tamer type of smoke The Costa Rican maduro would make a fine robusto,full of flavor and nuances.
rudder Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » Nicaraguan » » PC » Lonsdale » Robusto Exactly where I would go with this.:-)
Tampa1257 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » 1. Which tobbacco would you use: Nicaraguan, Remember...it must be a puro. » 2. Why: The Only Puro that matches what I enjoy in a cigar, complex flavor, consistent quality and IMHO the closest to what Cuban tobacco tastes like. » 3. The three sizes you would produce.: 1. Laguito No.1 2. Robusto 3. No. 2 These three sizes provide for all the typical size requirements, the Laguito No. 1 is for the Connaisseur Sized Thin Ring aficionado. The Robusto for the shorter time period and the No. 2 for those that enjoy a large ring gauge hour to hour and a half cigar. If I had a 4th size, I would say a Dalia sized cigar.
matthew261 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » » 1. Which tobbacco would you use » Nicaraguan » 2. Why By far the best thing going right now outside of Cuba » » 3. The three sizes you would produce. Churchill, Robusto, Torpedo (or Corona depending on market trends)
cigarros Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 » 1. Which tobbacco would you use » (Dominican/Honduran/Nicaraguan/Equadorian/etc). Remember...it must be a » puro. After Cuba only Nicaraguan. » 2. Why Very closest cuban taste » 3. The three sizes you would produce. Robo, toro, DC
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