Anyone tried a Montecristo \'C\' 2003 LE?

[craigos]

Has anyone tried one? Would love your opinions. Have a chance to buy a cab off a friend ...

regards

Craig

[Ken Gargett]

run away. run away. he's no friend if he is trying to sell you those diabolical, toxic, horrendously overrated compost heaps masquerading as legit cigars.

for me, by far the least of the LE range. have tried a number over time and every single one has been a waste of the use of my lungs. i know others disagree and they are fully entitled to their opinion, no matter how misguided it might be.

so i'd be a no.

[Ken Gargett]

ps, when you say cab, i assume you mean box. i don't believe that they were ever released in a cab, only boxes, tho rob could confirm.

if it really is a cab, then he is definitely no friend.

[craigos]

» ps, when you say cab, i assume you mean box. i don't believe that they were

» ever released in a cab, only boxes, tho rob could confirm.

» if it really is a cab, then he is definitely no friend.

Yeah 25 ct box sorry

[habanohal]

They have become very good over the years now. Very flavorful. I think Ken is hitting the Saki Bombs a little much

[Vetteman]

I smoked a few when they were released and found them to be mixed, and of course young. I had a couple that were very tasty with strong cocoa and coffee flavors. A couple others were bland, and I haven't smoked any recently. Ask your friend for a free sample and decide for yourself ;-)

[Ken Gargett]

have not tried one this year but tried several last year (people keep trying to convert me - smithy, it must be like everyone trying to convert you to straight, just not going to happen). i saw absolutely no change in the flavour profile from bland, bland and really bland.

i seriously hope you are right because i have most of a box left. not one of rob's fines moments, convincing me to sign on for those.

[El Presidente]

» have not tried one this year but tried several last year (people keep

» trying to convert me - smithy, it must be like everyone trying to convert

» you to straight, just not going to happen). i saw absolutely no change in

» the flavour profile from bland, bland and really bland.

» i seriously hope you are right because i have most of a box left. not one

» of rob's fines moments, convincing me to sign on for those.

Be fair Ken....when a new EL comes in I would have more chance of stopping you from putting on a Springsteen CD than stopping you from buying a box

The Monte C are far from consistent and I don't know why. I have had plenty of examples as Ken has described but then again I have had plenty of Cocoa laden examples as well. I think that it really is a batch to batch punt. Ask for the box code and then request a member review from that box code. It will narrow it down but it is no panacea.

[Ken Gargett]

slanderous. the last box of full size LE's i bought was from the 04, the sublimes. and the only other thing was the smaller 06 cohiba pyramides.

these cigars are the emperor's new clothes of tobacco.

[SmokinAl]

» slanderous. the last box of full size LE's i bought was from the 04, the

» sublimes. and the only other thing was the smaller 06 cohiba pyramides.

» these cigars are the emperor's new clothes of tobacco.

Hi Ken, are you refering to LE's in general?

[craigos]

» » have not tried one this year but tried several last year (people keep

» » trying to convert me - smithy, it must be like everyone trying to

» convert

» » you to straight, just not going to happen). i saw absolutely no change

» in

» » the flavour profile from bland, bland and really bland.

» » i seriously hope you are right because i have most of a box left. not

» one

» » of rob's fines moments, convincing me to sign on for those.

»

» Be fair Ken....when a new EL comes in I would have more chance of stopping

» you from putting on a Springsteen CD than stopping you from buying a box

»

»

» The Monte C are far from consistent and I don't know why. I have had

» plenty of examples as Ken has described but then again I have had plenty

» of Cocoa laden examples as well. I think that it really is a batch to

» batch punt. Ask for the box code and then request a member review from

» that box code. It will narrow it down but it is no panacea.

Box code is GKI AGO03

[Ken Gargett]

» slanderous. the last box of full size LE's i bought was from the 04, the

» » sublimes. and the only other thing was the smaller 06 cohiba pyramides.

» » these cigars are the emperor's new clothes of tobacco.

»

» Hi Ken, are you refering to LE's in general?

quite the contrary. i have been a big fan of many of the LE's, which is part the reason i find the C's so disappointing. hoyo and partagas pyramides, cohiba DC's, sublimes and 06 pyramides (the forthcoming monte sublimes), monte robustos, and many more.

then along came these dodgy compost sticks - every time rob gets big headed about some recommendation i like, i just need to remind him of these (so i suppose they have servd a purpose).

[SmokinAl]

G'day Craig,

I've got a few here so I thought I'd light one for you.

These things are strong! The smoke is heavy in the mouth and the flavour is really dense. I can't decide if I like it or not. It's an unusual smoke and I'd say its weight has some in common with Nic 'baco more so than Cuban.

It's heavy rather than broad (if that makes any sense) and a strong and distinct Cocoa profile in the first and second third. You could smoke one of these with Turkish Coffee and it would drown out the coffee.

I really shouldn't have lit this up with a hangover:-(

Thankyou for the clarifiction Ken. I'm on the fence with the whole LE thing and I find it hard to land on either side (although I'd like to). I guess I've hit most of the LE (except the Cohiba DC which is a constant source of annoyance to me) and I'm hard pressed to hang my hat on them being any "better" than reg production. Always good to get a second opinion.

[shrink]

The Monte "C" reminds me of nothing so much as the Ashton VSG. And that's not such a bad thing at all.

[Colt45]

» I'm hard pressed to hang my hat on them being any

» "better" than reg production. Always good to get a second

» opinion.

Well Al, I think perhaps you've answered yourself right there. I liken the ELs (and I guess REs as well)

to an auto company which takes a good car, adds a little chrome and fancy paint, tacks on a price

premium, and calls it a limited edition.

Not really any better than what you started with. And the bonus with the ELs is that they're not all that

limited. When the mood strikes, let's re-release 'em!

[Mel]

»

» Well Al, I think perhaps you've answered yourself right there. I liken the

» ELs (and I guess REs as well)

» to an auto company which takes a good car, adds a little chrome and fancy

» paint, tacks on a price

» premium, and calls it a limited edition.

» Not really any better than what you started with. And the bonus with the

» ELs is that they're not all that

» limited. When the mood strikes, let's re-release 'em!

Amen brother. I recall a buddy showing up for a river canoe trip with a "C" in his mouth and I commented on him starting out the day with such a nice stick. He said nah I just don't care if I drop this one in the river.:-D

[Colt45]

» Amen brother. I recall a buddy showing up for a river canoe trip with a

» "C" in his mouth and I commented on him starting out the day with such a

» nice stick.

Super Cod! It's all I can do to not comment on the river canoe trip.......

Oh, what the hell - were you Burt Reynolds or Ned Beatty?

[Ken Gargett]

» » Amen brother. I recall a buddy showing up for a river canoe trip with a

» » "C" in his mouth and I commented on him starting out the day with such

» a

» » nice stick.

»

» Super Cod! It's all I can do to not comment on the river canoe

» trip.......

»

» Oh, what the hell - were you Burt Reynolds or Ned Beatty?

took the words.

and why would you want to spoil a nice day on the river with one of those. or pollute the river.

colt, i do understand your sentiments but i also think that on a good number of occasions, they have risen above. it is a shame that there are too many average or underperforming ones amongst them, but from what i've sen of the regionals, this can be said ther too, only more so.

[Colt45]

» colt, i do understand your sentiments but i also think that on a good

» number of occasions, they have risen above. it is a shame that there are

» too many average or underperforming ones amongst them, but from what i've

» sen of the regionals, this can be said ther too, only more so.

KG, we've all gone round with this from time to time, and I know there have been some very good ELs / REs.

My thinking in response to Al is agreement, in that I'm not so sure that they are really heads and shoulders

above normal production. And as for limited.......

[SmokinAl]

» My thinking in response to Al is agreement, in that I'm not so sure that

» they are really heads and shoulders

» above normal production. And as for limited.......

[Ken Gargett]

And as for limited.......

on this we have agreement. i think that 'limited' in cubanese must mean something different to what we understand.

[Mel]

» And as for limited.......

»

»

» on this we have agreement. i think that 'limited' in cubanese must mean

» something different to what we understand.

I'm cut more in the mold of Burt.;-) If we want to argue about the EL I will tell you that I do not get the Cohiba DC EL. It just has never turned my crank. I really loved the HDM Pirimides after a couple years.

[Fatshotbud]

Smoked a couple when they came out and actually I enjoyed them - in addition to a cocoa element seems I remember a rich nutty flavor - tucked away the remainder see how things developed.

Time will tell........