FOH Poll Results

[El Presidente]

FOH Poll Results

Por Larranaga Connoisseur No 3 (Carlotas) 41.7%

Ramon Allones Pirimide 39.7%

Juan Lopez Churchill 7.3%

Rafael Gonzalez Lancero 6.0%

Sancho Panza Robusto 5.3%

I have forwarded the results to my friends at Habanos. They will be surprised at the result ;-)

I will give you an update when I can

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» FOH Poll Results

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» Por Larranaga Connoisseur No 3 (Carlotas) 41.7%

» Ramon Allones Pirimide 39.7%

» Juan Lopez Churchill 7.3%

» Rafael Gonzalez Lancero 6.0%

» Sancho Panza Robusto 5.3%

»

» I have forwarded the results to my friends at Habanos. They will be

» surprised at the result ;-)

I'm shocked. I voted for the RA Piramide, 'cause IMO it would be the greatest thing since the Party P2. I just don't get the PL No. 3, as much as I enjoy the Partagas in this vitola. A delicados would be more interesting to me, especially if they adjusted the blend a bit towards the full-bodied side.

Well, it only goes to show ya: different strokes...

[El Presidente]

» I'm shocked. I voted for the RA Piramide, 'cause IMO it would be the

» greatest thing since the Party P2. I just don't get the PL No. 3, as much

» as I enjoy the Partagas in this vitola. A delicados would be more

» interesting to me, especially if they adjusted the blend a bit towards the

» full-bodied side.

»

» Well, it only goes to show ya: different strokes...

I believe the Por Larranaga Carlota (Connie No 3 format) would be the ultimate late morning coffee cigar. Medium bodied with lashings of strong coffee and honey notes which will age beautifully into a sweet, medium/full bodied cigar. All delivered in cabinets of 50 ;-)

[jqmunro]

» » I'm shocked. I voted for the RA Piramide, 'cause IMO it would be the

» » greatest thing since the Party P2. I just don't get the PL No. 3, as

» much

» » as I enjoy the Partagas in this vitola. A delicados would be more

» » interesting to me, especially if they adjusted the blend a bit towards

» the

» » full-bodied side.

» »

» » Well, it only goes to show ya: different strokes...

»

» I believe the Por Larranaga Carlota (Connie No 3 format) would be the

» ultimate late morning coffee cigar. Medium bodied with lashings of strong

» coffee and honey notes which will age beautifully into a sweet,

» medium/full bodied cigar. All delivered in cabinets of 50 ;-)

yeah, all delivered in master cases to my house

[JMH]

I can only hope that that PL Carlota comes into existence.

[Tom Bolivar]

» Medium bodied with lashings of strong coffee and honey notes which will age beautifully into a sweet, medium/full bodied cigar. All delivered in cabinets of 50 ;-)

Man, reading this reminds me of reading the Playboy when I was 16! Only better!

[Ginseng]

» » Medium bodied with lashings of strong coffee and honey notes which will

» age beautifully into a sweet, medium/full bodied cigar. All delivered in

» cabinets of 50 ;-)

»

» Man, reading this reminds me of reading the Playboy when I was 16! Only

» better!

I'm in. Gotta love anything that comes in a 50-cab.

Wilkey

[Ginseng]

Rob,

You said they'd be surprised by the result. What were they expecting we'd say, and why?

Wilkey

[El Presidente]

» Rob,

»

» You said they'd be surprised by the result. What were they expecting we'd

» say, and why?

»

» Wilkey

Wilkey, I can tell you that they would have laid money down that a large format cigar would have been selected. They would have let me write my own odds.

One of the problems I have in convincing them of the demand for smaller formats as candidates for new releases is that few of the Habanos s.a Heirachy smoke them.

We handed out plenty of aged Connoisseur No 3's in Havana and no-one within the industry had ever tried one before. When I gave one to Hamlet he called me a *** mother#ucker I insisted and 5 minutes into the Connie he turned to Jose Antonio Candia of Habanos s.a and said...."F##King great cigar". I converted Jose to them when he was here with me in Oct 06. Prior to that he had never smoked one and now he has an appreciation of the richness and depth of flavour a small format cigar is capable of delivering.

So you see the problem.

[Professor Twain]

»

» One of the problems I have in convincing them of the demand for smaller

» formats as candidates for new releases is that few of the Habanos s.a

» Heirachy smoke them.

»

Very interesting. Do they also only smoke recent production? Do they collect and savor aged cigars?

[El Presidente]

» Very interesting. Do they also only smoke recent production? Do they

» collect and savor aged cigars?

Few have access to aged Habanos so regular production is what they smoke. They gravitate to the larger format cigars particularly Robusto, Canonazo, Pirimide and Churchill.

Hamlet says I am the only *** MF who asks him to roll carlota's (Connie 3) formats. He hates doing it and will do it when pressed and only when no-one is watching :-D

I love watching him squirm and the never ending flow of expletives ;-)

[Tampa1257]

I agree with Rob, that it boils down to the Issue of Education. As the Altadis people formulated their Marketing Background in the Non-Cuban Cigar Industry and the fact that for a cigar of that Manufacturing takes a thicker ring to provide enough tobacco to give the flavor that a cigar such as the Connaisseur No.1,2 or 3 can provide in a thin ring format. As you have witnessed yourself from truly great rollers in the Cuban Industry to Head,s of Habanos S.A. itself, they have never even tried the thin ring cigars before and through your efforts are only now beginning to see that they provide a excellent flavorful and complex smoking experience that is unparalleled to the thicker formats.

Thank you for your continued efforts to show Habanos the real reason why cigars such as the Connaisseur Serie have a value to the Market, and are appreciated by the consumers.

[Ginseng]

» Wilkey, I can tell you that they would have laid money down that a large

» format cigar would have been selected. They would have let me write my own

» odds.

»

» One of the problems I have in convincing them of the demand for smaller

» formats as candidates for new releases is that few of the Habanos s.a

» Heirachy smoke them.

»

» We handed out plenty of aged Connoisseur No 3's in Havana and no-one

» within the industry had ever tried one before. When I gave one to Hamlet

» he called me a *** mother#ucker I insisted and 5 minutes into the

» Connie he turned to Jose Antonio Candia of Habanos s.a and

» said...."F##King great cigar". I converted Jose to them when he was here

» with me in Oct 06. Prior to that he had never smoked one and now he has an

» appreciation of the richness and depth of flavour a small format cigar is

» capable of delivering.

»

» So you see the problem.

Crystal clear, Rob. Simply stunning. So small cigars are not considered "macho" Fascinating that those deep in the industry seem to have a completely different compass than we "connoisseurs." It is stunning that someone like Sr. Candia was, perhaps intentionally, unaware of certain niches of riches in their product line.

Wilkey

[12stones]

If they're not macho then I guess I'll have to live with myself...I am in love with the thinner ring guages, much of it thanks to Rob and his insistance, but also others "in the know" kept pushing me towards them. While I would have loved to have seen an RA Pyramide, I think the PL #3 is pure genius. I hope they listen.

[Tom Bolivar]

Two month ago my favourit retailer handed me a Connaisseur No. 3 from 1988. Ever since I can not stop thinking about this cigar. :-D