Calling FOH Colombos: Tell us about this box?

[El Presidente]

Tell us about this box? 🤔

 

 

[Fugu]

A vintage box from a cigar that’s nowhere to be seen these days … 🥲

[GP012]

Guessing very early Cubatabaco stamp, so mid 80s (June 1985?) Monte No 1's.

[El Presidente]

Monte 1's they are indeed. How did you get June 85?

 

[Bijan]

According to CCW this is original date code system from 1985-1998:
https://www.cubancigarwebsite.com/packaging/information#Date_Codes

A = June

UL = 1985

Edit: for clarity:
 

N	I	V	E	L	A	C	U	S	O
1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	0

 

So A = 6 = June

UL=85 = 1985

[Fuzz]

Cubatabaco stamp was used from 1985 to to 1994. The code looks to be the NIVELACUSO code used between 1985 and 1998. AUL works out to be June 1985.

[GP012]

On 6/24/2025 at 11:34 AM, El Presidente said:

Monte 1's they are indeed. How did you get June 85?

AUL was explained above, but the Cubatabaco leaf looks relatively crisp and there's no Totalmente A Mano, so it's 1985 through 1988.

[Salomones]

On 6/24/2025 at 12:11 PM, Fuzz said:

Cubatabaco stamp was used from 1985 to to 1994. The code looks to be the NIVELACUSO code used between 1985 and 1998. AUL works out to be June 1985.

They started in 1984. 

[Fuzz]

11 hours ago, Salomones said:

They started in 1984. 

I'm going off what is in the Cigar Bible, aka CubanCigarWebsite.

[Fugu]

13 hours ago, Salomones said:

They started in 1984. 

New to me. Any dependable source for this?

[Salomones]

Both not correct

I did and do have Boxes with NIVELACUSO from 1984

F. E. check at Bond Roberts:

 

Montecristo Montecristo Especial 1984

[Stevieboy]

I have some Monte Especiales in cello from 11-84 NNUE. Always seemed there was an anomaly what with them being in cello?!?

[Salomones]

On 6/26/2025 at 2:55 AM, Fuzz said:

I'm going off what is in the Cigar Bible, aka CubanCigarWebsite.

One of little errors in both.

8 hours ago, Stevieboy said:

I have some Monte Especiales in cello from 11-84 NNUE. Always seemed there was an anomaly what with them being in cello?!?

Me too. And Oct 1984.

[Stevieboy]

Me too. And Oct 1984.

Are your Montes in cello too?

[Salomones]

11 hours ago, Stevieboy said:

16 hours ago, Salomones said:

Me too. And Oct 1984.

Are your Montes in cello too?

Boxes of 10 without cello.

[Fugu]

On 6/26/2025 at 5:40 AM, Salomones said:

Both not correct

I did and do have Boxes with NIVELACUSO from 1984

Would you mind posting up some pics of your boxes @Salomones?

Certainly not everything is perfect in the cigar 'bibles' – how could it? But what puzzles me here is that it’s not just them but also all serious (read: trustworthy) published info (on web as well as in print), and including official Habanos publications, are stating a start of date stamping (NIVELACUSO code) in 1985. Not saying it couldn't have happened, and if only in an off-the-record test run. But before ‘history’ will have to be rewritten I think it needs a bit more information that would need some thorough verification.

[Salomones]

9 hours ago, Fugu said, "Would you mind posting up some pics of your boxes @Salomones?"

Yes. I will do so in the next days. Like I wrote, one example is to be seen on Bond Roberts.