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You're more likely to force a Frenchman to be faithful to his wife than to stop them smoking wherever they want.

As someone who visits France often I'm almost certain it will be ignored and won't be enforced. Only a year ago I wandered into the bar of the hotel I was staying at to find the owner and half a dozen patrons smoking away. At a 2023 RWC game in Nice there were smoking areas in the stands with some people smoking in their seats!

 

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I don't know, many cafés in Paris have turned their terrasses smoke-free the last few years, something one couldn't imagine even 5 years ago.

But you're right, I can't see it being strongly enforced... I'll keep you all posted.

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I'll find out more (about this) later this year!

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8 hours ago, bmac said:

My aunt just returned from France and she said people smoked everywhere. She was shocked.

Smoking in many parts of Europe is very common. Here in Saudi Arabia a cigarette + black coffee is a delicious breakfast. 

8 hours ago, Li Bai said:

I don't know, many cafés in Paris have turned their terrasses smoke-free the last few years, something one couldn't imagine even 5 years ago.

But you're right, I can't see it being strongly enforced... I'll keep you all posted.

One solution that many cafes/restaurants do is to split their establishment into two sections. Smoking area/non-smoking. a cafe without a visible ashtray placed outside is a no-no. 

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19 hours ago, Marco_011t556 said:
I was in Paris back to 2023 and had a coffee in a cafe.
I asked: "can I smoke here?" (Sitting outside of the cafe, no ceiling/ shelf on top.)
Owner: "yes, sure!" 
Then I burned my D4… 
Owner: "Sir, sorry you can only smoke cigarette but not cigar, too smoky!"


This was my experience in many bars, restaurants, etc. in the US before smoking was banned. I never understood how 20 people smoking cigarette after cigarette wasn’t worse than 1 or 2 cigars.

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On 5/31/2025 at 8:00 AM, JohnS said:

I'll found out more (about this) later this year!

Are you planning a trip to France later this year John?  
*Or you mean research-wise.  

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On 5/30/2025 at 11:04 AM, bmac said:

My aunt just returned from France and she said people smoked everywhere. She was shocked.

I am assuming most of them are cigarette smokers, not cigars, correct?  

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On 5/30/2025 at 8:42 AM, Li Bai said:

I don't know, many cafés in Paris have turned their terrasses smoke-free the last few years, something one couldn't imagine even 5 years ago.

But you're right, I can't see it being strongly enforced... I'll keep you all posted.

That's how it happened in the US. Growing up everyone smoked. Then they started banning them in bars and other public places. I was shocked about the bars since it was adults only and was mad about it. But ultimately, smoking became more annoying with all the barriers and I just quit. Now, virtually no one smokes cigarettes. I can see France wanting to end their smoking culture. 

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13 hours ago, BoliDan said:

I can see France wanting to end their smoking culture. 

That's what I see too.

As strange as it may appear to foreigners who visit France, there's a strong anti-smoking lobbying going on here since the early 2000s. 

Advertising tobacco products is prohibited, smoking in your car (personal or professional) is prohibited (though not strongly enforced), and from July 1st smoking in public parks and beaches will be prohibited too.

18 years ago the President of Pour Une Poignée de Cigares (the French CC forum from which I came from) was taken to court by an anti-smoking organisation for encouraging smoking, which he was not but talking of our passion is "encouraging smoking" to some. He nearly lost everything he had, the case was dismissed eventually but the members of the biggest CC forum in French language couldn't access it without a registration and a password any longer.

To sum it up, the laws here are severe albeit not that strictly enforced, but we're definitely getting to it one step at a time.

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I think most table games in Vegas does not allow cigar smoking now but allow cigs. Sooner or later they will allow weeds and ban cigars in casinos 

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On 5/31/2025 at 7:27 PM, Habanoschris said:

Are you planning a trip to France later this year John?  
*Or you mean research-wise.  

I'll be there in October for a three weeks. I'm interested to see what things are like outside of Paris (as I will be visiting a few regions across the country).

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1 hour ago, VeguerosMAN said:

I think most table games in Vegas does not allow cigar smoking now but allow cigs. Sooner or later they will allow weeds and ban cigars in casinos 

I was just in Vegas and every table game I played I had to stand 6’ away from the table if I wanted to take a puff of my cigar. They had no problem with the lit cigar resting in an ashtray on the table,  just had to step away 6’ to take a puff. Meanwhile, the smell of marijuana is everywhere. There were some people smoking weed in the lobby of the MGM and no one batted an eye. Times have certainly changed. 

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