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We often talk about the best valued CCs. Usually the conversation leads to lower priced, but very good cigars. Por Larranaga Petite Coronas, Montecarlos, Juan Lopez No 2, Fonseca, etc.

My twist on the question is, based on size of cigar, what are the great values? It feels to me that double robustos would be pretty good value considering their length and gauge. You might be paying a bit more, but you're getting a better deal.

Any thoughts?

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Partagas E2 is generally undervalued.

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21 minutes ago, chasy said:

We often talk about the best valued CCs. Usually the conversation leads to lower priced, but very good cigars. Por Larranaga Petite Coronas, Montecarlos, Juan Lopez No 2, Fonseca, etc.

My twist on the question is, based on size of cigar, what are the great values? It feels to me that double robustos would be pretty good value considering their length and gauge. You might be paying a bit more, but you're getting a better deal.

Any thoughts?

Perhaps another way to put this question - what is the pound-for-pound champion of cigars?

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I asked ChatGPT to attempt to put together a table based on volume-to-price ratio (assuming all cigars are equally packed with tobacco). JLP Cazadores and the rest of the JLP line won by a longshot 🤣

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10 hours ago, JD_Stogies said:

I asked ChatGPT to attempt to put together a table based on volume-to-price ratio (assuming all cigars are equally packed with tobacco). JLP Cazadores and the rest of the JLP line won by a longshot 🤣

Using Artificial Intelligence for the good of humanity. I like it! What stick is the winner in the long-filler space?

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2 hours ago, HenryMartin said:

Perhaps another way to put this question - what is the pound-for-pound champion of cigars?

Yes pound for pound, but also relative value. For example, the Quai D’Orsay 52 seems to me to be good value in the marca given its length and gauge relative to the other Quai D’Orsay lineup.

But yes, pound for pound is another way of thinking about it.

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Behike 56

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I would say any of the Rafael Gonzalez vitolas fit the bill, as well as some of the cheaper Partagas offerings like the Habaneros, Aristocrats, etc. Other that short filler there isn't much anymore in what I consider cheap anymore. Monte 4 at 400 something a box is insane.

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The Rafael Gonzalez belicoso does strike me as good bang for buck. I might even throw the Rio Seco in there. It's a massive cigar, not cheap, but at ~$35 a stick it is a much bigger smoke than, say a $30 Robusto, so in my mind a good value.

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35 minutes ago, chasy said:

The Rafael Gonzalez belicoso does strike me as good bang for buck. 

Do you possibly mean the Rafael Gonzalez Coronas de Lonsdales? Or another release?

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On 2/26/2025 at 4:34 AM, JD_Stogies said:

I asked ChatGPT to attempt to put together a table based on volume-to-price ratio (assuming all cigars are equally packed with tobacco). JLP Cazadores and the rest of the JLP line won by a longshot 🤣

I like this answer. Computers don't lie. Skynet knows cigars.

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On 2/25/2025 at 10:34 PM, JD_Stogies said:

I asked ChatGPT to attempt to put together a table based on volume-to-price ratio (assuming all cigars are equally packed with tobacco). JLP Cazadores and the rest of the JLP line won by a longshot 🤣

I tried that a year ago or so and the answer was more or less "tobacco is bad, I can't help you", not joking.

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1 hour ago, Li Bai said:

I tried that a year ago or so and the answer was more or less "tobacco is bad, I can't help you", not joking.

There must have been some change, I ask chatgpt about cigars all the time, the responses are decent.

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11 minutes ago, mikejh said:

There must have been some change, I ask chatgpt about cigars all the time, the responses are decent.

I've just tried again and you're right, there's been some change. At the time I wasn't surprised about everything tobacco-related being censored, now I'm surprised it's not anymore.

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3 hours ago, Li Bai said:

I've just tried again and you're right, there's been some change. At the time I wasn't surprised about everything tobacco-related being censored, now I'm surprised it's not anymore.

It's actually really solid for cigar-related use now. I have a chat specifically tailored to giving me smoking schedules (with drink pairings) if I plan on smoking several cigars in one session. It also explains why it picks what it picks 😃

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Pound per pound best value for me is the Partagas Lusitania.

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RG Coronas de Lonsdale

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On 3/2/2025 at 2:59 PM, Uwiik said:

Pound per pound best value for me is the Partagas Lusitania.

There is something to be said with this. If I am parking my coin long term it would be in the Double Corona, Churchill-sized offerings. I make time to smoke these days and for 50 or so dollars a Punch DC or Lusi fits the bill at around 2 hours smoking time for me, and Winnies and RyJ Tubos would be the other. These and regular morning coffee smokes and I'd be happy the rest of my days. 

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