Storage rabbit hole

[Marrduk24]

1. I started with tupperdors. But the temperature would rise to 75f + and I tried every section of the house. 

2. Moved my tupperdors to the bottom rack of my big wine fridge. Worked beautifully 65f temperature and 65% RH. But now running out of space and don’t have enough space in my wine fridge to put more tupperdors.

I would like to be able to store 6-10 boxes of 25 cigars and another 100 or so loose cigars. What’s my best option? I live in NY, USA.

[CaptainQuintero]

  If you freeze your stock you don't really need to worry about temp, use your beads to keep humidity down and in general terms you should be okay, unless your local climate is in real extremes.

  Obviously they are linked so you can't get away from one or the other if you have extremes, but roughly temp worries are for beetles and humidity for mould. Freezing eliminates bug worrys, beads (or whatever your chosen system) eliminates mould worries.

 It can end up being a case of a personal trial and error to suit your storage to your very local environment until you find the sweet spot that works for you.

[Marrduk24]

Any other option? Don’t want to go down the path of freezing. 
 

I guess at this stage my only two options seem to be:

1. Get a wine fridge and store my tuplerdors in it 

2. Get a refrigerated humidor such as Raching 800a or 1800a

 

Otherwise left unrefrigerated, Tupperdors will be in 75-80f temperature range. 

[CaptainQuintero]

  You don't have to freeze at all, but that's the only way to guarantee you won't get beetles. A lot of people don't freeze though

 It usually comes down to what time/energy/money you want to invest in the solution. If you go down a wine fridge route and have it turned on, you'll need a dedicated system to continuously remove the moisture that running a cooled system will introduce into in. Obviously that's more time/energy/money than freezing and using a passive humidification system but it depends what you want to do

 I'm definitely more of the less energy/maintenance way of life so just froze and keep stuff in a turned off and sealed wine fridge with 6lb of beads. Haven't had to change or fiddle with anything for 13+ years

[Nevrknow]

These cost to much NOT to freeze. Doesn’t take that long. An expensive gamble to me.

[Li Bai]

4 hours ago, Marrduk24 said:

Otherwise left unrefrigerated, Tupperdors will be in 75-80f temperature range.

I understand that but don't forget cigars have been kept unrefrigerated for centuries and Cuba, the DR or Nicaragua are not exactly cold countries 😉

[Marrduk24]

Thanks guys. I think I am coming around to the idea of freezing and keeping them in tupperdors at room temperature.

 

So the ritual will be something like:

1. Take the cigars out of boxes, put it in a ziploc and keep in the fridge for 12 hours

2. Put the ziploc in the freezer for 12 hours

3. Shift back to the fridge for 12 hours

4. Put back in the box and store the box in a tupperdor at 65% RH - tupperdor will be under the bed in a room

[Fuzz]

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[CaptainQuintero]

  I just double zip lock, straight into the freezer for 3 days, then 24 hours into the fridge, then 24 hours on the side at room temp then out the bags and into the humidor.

Everyone seems to have a little variation and their own method though.

[Marrduk24]

17 hours ago, CaptainQuintero said:

  I just double zip lock, straight into the freezer for 3 days, then 24 hours into the fridge, then 24 hours on the side at room temp then out the bags and into the humidor.

Everyone seems to have a little variation and their own method though.

Thank you. Sorry for asking some basic questions - but coming up to speed. Once I have done the freezing, I can store them in my room at 65 % RH? I will be keeping them in a tupperdor under the bed, which is the most shaded part of the house. But the Govee temperature still varies from 70f to 80f.

 

 

[BrightonCorgi]

No AC in your house?

If not and you need temp control, buy another wine fridge on Facebook Marketplace. Plenty of them for sale cheap. Once the condenser gives the ghost it'll live on as a humidor. Plenty of big cabinet humidors available on there too.

[CaptainQuintero]

On 5/5/2024 at 9:55 PM, Marrduk24 said:

Thank you. Sorry for asking some basic questions - but coming up to speed. Once I have done the freezing, I can store them in my room at 65 % RH? I will be keeping them in a tupperdor under the bed, which is the most shaded part of the house. But the Govee temperature still varies from 70f to 80f.

No need to apologise at all everyone goes through figuring out storage stuff! We all keep learning too!

Yeah when you've frozen stock there's no worry about beetles and you can store there no worries, my humidors have regularly gone to 30c and no issues, just keep an eye on the humidity during an heatwaves etc and cycle beads etc if needs be.

 If I'm in a heatwave I'm not in the mood to smoke anyway so I keep tuppedors sealed up throughout until it cools down too.