jfrisko Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 And the nominee for best unsupported actor goes to... 1
Chibearsv Posted December 14, 2023 Posted December 14, 2023 Lebron is my favorite. It takes Kung Fu power to touch a 6’9” 260 pound guy and send him 15 feet across the ground 🤣 1
99call Posted December 15, 2023 Posted December 15, 2023 4.50 mark. All Blacks history is covered in glory, lots of people forget that that legacy is full of pretty pathetic/disgusting behaviour, with ref's seemingly all on board. This would be laughable, if it didn't rob Wales of their only AB's win
Ken Gargett Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 19 hours ago, 99call said: 4.50 mark. All Blacks history is covered in glory, lots of people forget that that legacy is full of pretty pathetic/disgusting behaviour, with ref's seemingly all on board. This would be laughable, if it didn't rob Wales of their only AB's win so glad you posted that. absolutely typical of nz play. doing it for years. come on down, Richie mccaw. but first, how good to see some great rugby in that clip, the way it was played. some brilliant players on both sides - mourie, holmes, loveridge, Quinnell, price, Williams and so on. that welsh side toured Australia that year. great side but that was when Queensland was pretty much at its peak. the Qld Wales game, both full strength, was one of the greatest, and toughest, I've ever seen. both sides would be on extended leave today. wales won, but perhaps the welsh bitching about refereeing is glass houses stuff. our winning try, by brendon moon, was ruled in touch. no chance. photo in the paper the next day showed him in by a foot. still outraged (in those days, touring sides would be offered their choice of three home refs for the tests - so local refs would do all they could to get in the good books of the touring teams - the bloke from nsw who reffed the Qld v Ireland game the following year, blew us off the park. gus Erickson? whoever, it was truly disgraceful. so bad that fortunately the Irish never went near him). the wallabies won both tests because thankfully they were full of Qlders. anyone doubts how good Qld was back then, two years later we played a full strength all blacks and beat them. they could not even score a try (mind you, nor could we - 9-3 with a penalty each, a gloriously elegant paul mclean field goal and finally, a field goal from roger gould who caught a kick on the ten-yard line on the Qld side of halfway, on the sideline. a couple of steps and he banged it over. just wow!). phenomenal game. we won the two tests but they were tough. the end of the great graham price i believe, steve finnane, who later became a highly respected barrister, ended his career by breaking his jaw. price (who whinged about it for nearly as long as jonny Bairstow has been whinging about his own stupidity) claimed he was king hit from behind. the punch was an uppercut in a scrum - how the hell you can get behind an opposition prop when setting a scrum is a curious one. finnane apparently claimed it was retribution for him being kicked while on the ground, which price did not dispute. just claimed it was not by him. all this within the first three minutes! but back to that 78 ab v wales game. i have long discussed that very game and the beyond disgraceful cheating by andy hayden with kiwis. hayden even wrote proudly about how he cheated in his autobiography. it was appalling but the kiwis loved it. which made their faux outrage over the underarm ball two years later even more self-serving nonsense. they have bitched about that - which while it was not our finest moment as it was hardly necessary, it was perfectly legal - for more than four deacdes. sure, better we had not done it but as i have said, nz should be grateful. it gave them a reason to get up in the morning and dragged them out of their fifties stupor. bitching about aussies. and they have never stopped. yet when they cheat, it is very clever and all part of the game - and remember, what Chappell did was not even cheating. nation of hypocrites. but there is one wonderful piece of irony in all this. the penalty awarded to the ab's after hayden cheated was kicked by brian mckechnie to give them the win. the batsman who faced the underarm ball two years later? that very same brian mckechnie. you could not have made it up! On 12/15/2023 at 10:23 AM, Chibearsv said: Lebron is my favorite. It takes Kung Fu power to touch a 6’9” 260 pound guy and send him 15 feet across the ground 🤣 never saw Michael Jordan fake a dive (or perhaps time has warped the memory).
jfrisko Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 Probably one of sports worst dives as of late. 🤣
Chibearsv Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 12 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: never saw Michael Jordan fake a dive (or perhaps time has warped the memory). Nope, he got knocked around hard for real, as did just about everyone playing in that era. Exaggerated grunting while shooting to try to draw a foul was about the extent of it back then.
99call Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 20 hours ago, Ken Gargett said: but there is one wonderful piece of irony in all this. the penalty awarded to the ab's after hayden cheated was kicked by brian mckechnie to give them the win. the batsman who faced the underarm ball two years later? that very same brian mckechnie. you could not have made it up! That's bonkers Ken, I never knew that. As I side note, I listen to a sports podcast where one of the people doing it has a father with I think Parkinsons or Alzeimers. Anyway, he has realised one of the ways he can get his dad back, is sourcing 1970's domestic and international Welsh matches from the BBC archives (that the father attended as a young man). Once the footage is rolling, he can pick out where he was in the crowd, and give a blow by blow account of what happened in the morning leading up to the game, and the shennanigans in the pub after. It's struck me as a really magical story of the power of sport, and how much it can give many years after the event. With regard to the style of rugby, yes it's a joy to watch. It's the stepping that really makes it for me. The speed of the set piece, backline players fending with both hands, the dynamic offloading, the variety of kicking. the list goes on and on. That said this was obviously all pre the influence and professionalism of rugby league. The roman style efficiency and organisation of a rugby league defensive system, and how it bled into rugby union, has changed things forever. Ever since this influence, RU has sought to tinker on and on with never ending rule changes. Sometimes the incarnation has been more enjoyable that other years, but they still have yet to hit upon a set of rules which renders the game as enjoyable as it was in the 1970's. Ultimately the best thing about Rugby Union, is its genuinely one of the only sports where all body shapes are catered for, and when reffed correctly, everyone has their areas of domination and deficiency. A diminutive number 9, like Dupont can step a tighthead prop for fun in open field, but that same tight head can rejoice in crushing the 9 in half, at the bottom of a ruck. The mess that the game is currently in has be depressed like many, but I do still hold out hope it can hit upon a formulation of the rules that will make it once again (for me) the best game in the world. Ultimately if they can marry these three things, they will be on to a winner: - A free flowing game - A game that is safe within reason, and where the long and short term wellbeing of the players is paramount - A game that is still incredibly physical, where huge legal hits are a celebrated part of the game
Ken Gargett Posted December 16, 2023 Posted December 16, 2023 6 hours ago, 99call said: That's bonkers Ken, I never knew that. As I side note, I listen to a sports podcast where one of the people doing it has a father with I think Parkinsons or Alzeimers. Anyway, he has realised one of the ways he can get his dad back, is sourcing 1970's domestic and international Welsh matches from the BBC archives (that the father attended as a young man). Once the footage is rolling, he can pick out where he was in the crowd, and give a blow by blow account of what happened in the morning leading up to the game, and the shennanigans in the pub after. It's struck me as a really magical story of the power of sport, and how much it can give many years after the event. With regard to the style of rugby, yes it's a joy to watch. It's the stepping that really makes it for me. The speed of the set piece, backline players fending with both hands, the dynamic offloading, the variety of kicking. the list goes on and on. That said this was obviously all pre the influence and professionalism of rugby league. The roman style efficiency and organisation of a rugby league defensive system, and how it bled into rugby union, has changed things forever. Ever since this influence, RU has sought to tinker on and on with never ending rule changes. Sometimes the incarnation has been more enjoyable that other years, but they still have yet to hit upon a set of rules which renders the game as enjoyable as it was in the 1970's. Ultimately the best thing about Rugby Union, is its genuinely one of the only sports where all body shapes are catered for, and when reffed correctly, everyone has their areas of domination and deficiency. A diminutive number 9, like Dupont can step a tighthead prop for fun in open field, but that same tight head can rejoice in crushing the 9 in half, at the bottom of a ruck. The mess that the game is currently in has be depressed like many, but I do still hold out hope it can hit upon a formulation of the rules that will make it once again (for me) the best game in the world. Ultimately if they can marry these three things, they will be on to a winner: - A free flowing game - A game that is safe within reason, and where the long and short term wellbeing of the players is paramount - A game that is still incredibly physical, where huge legal hits are a celebrated part of the game completely agree about the rules but sadly i cannot see a way back. interesting about sports and memory etc. mum in her early 90s. absolutely no short term memory but otherwise pretty good. she watches hours of cricket (and rugby league - her father played against the touring English many decades ago and so she has always followed it). she won't remember what happened in the test yesterday but what tallon or bradman etc did 70 years ago, no problem. 1
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