El Presidente Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 This is on top of the 30 tons lost to fire last week The intense rainfall recorded in Cuba since last Friday caused the loss of 16.55 tons of tobacco in Pinar del Río, the island's main tobacco province. The president of the Tabacuba Business Group, Marino Murillo Jorge, said that the municipality of San Juan y Martínez, where the best tobacco in the country is grown, is one of the most affected by the rains . There they try to recover all the usable tobacco, he insisted. The official indicated that the peasants with the most losses were those belonging to this territory, which is part of the so-called tobacco massif. "The supervisors will have to intensify their performance in each affected plain and define the actions for recovery based on the availability of resources," said Jorge, quoted by the official website Cubadebate . The newspaper explained that producers from the CCS Esteban Ajete in the Pinar del Río municipality of San Juan y Martínez, are trying to recover all usable resources to raise the tobacco houses knocked down by the wind and rain. The main exportable crop of Pinar del Río was also affected last week by a powerful fire in a warehouse belonging to the Tobacco Collection and Processing Company, which caused the loss of 30 tons and 4,000 cujes. The situation seems to aggravate the tobacco crisis in the country, whose economy benefits from the export of Habanos and other cigars. 2
Chibearsv Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 What percent of normal harvest is 46.55 tons lost? 2
SCgarman Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 Large format Cohiba cigars will now retail for $500 per cigar due to unforseen circumstances. 🤪
Islandboy Posted June 7, 2022 Posted June 7, 2022 I know firsthand how difficult farming is, even here in the U.S. The look on the farmer’s face in the 2nd photo kinda says it all, this has to be heartbreaking. 4
El Presidente Posted June 7, 2022 Author Posted June 7, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 11:34 PM, Chibearsv said: What percent of normal harvest is 46.55 tons lost? Expand * I am sot sure how accurate the below is. In 2019, crop production of tobacco in Cuba amounted to 61 thousand metric tons. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1079457/cuba-tobacco-production/#:~:text=In 2019%2C crop production of,registered in the previous year.
Chibearsv Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 If that’s accurate, then .08%, which doesn’t sound significant except for the poor farmers that are directly affected. I feel sorry for them. I know farmers here buy crop insurance for such calamities but I’m guessing something like that isn’t available in Cuba. 1
El Presidente Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:01 AM, therealrsr said: I am thinking the same, but also wonder if is this enough damage and saving what they can to set up a repeat of '99 - '01 around the corner? Expand They had or trained enough rollers in 99-01 to manage 160M cigars. They can't do 20% of that number today. 3
Rhinoww Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 So if we were to guesstimate even 2-3% of overall tobacco harvest was destroyed, isn’t there quite a bit of extra leaf that is ready to roll that simply hasn’t been rolled due to Covid to more than make up any shortfall?
El Presidente Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:04 AM, Rhinoww said: So if we were to guesstimate even 2-3% of overall tobacco harvest was destroyed, isn’t there quite a bit of extra leaf that is ready to roll that simply hasn’t been rolled due to Covid to more than make up any shortfall? Expand a lot of that tobacco (60 metric ton) is cigarette tobacco. the 45 ton lost in the past 14 days is cigar tobacco and at least 30 ton largely wrapper. Say: 3 million cigars.
MeLlamoHabano Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:04 AM, Rhinoww said: So if we were to guesstimate even 2-3% of overall tobacco harvest was destroyed, isn’t there quite a bit of extra leaf that is ready to roll that simply hasn’t been rolled due to Covid to more than make up any shortfall? Expand Good question, to piggy back on that for prez or whomever may know; is usable tobacco more the shortage reasoning or lack of rollers?
El Presidente Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:09 AM, MeLlamoHabano said: is usable tobacco more the shortage reasoning or lack of rollers? Expand shortage of quality wrapper for larger format cigars lack of rollers. Some factories are still under 60% roller capacity and they can't find people to train. * There is a flood of young people leaving Cuba. * Inflation is rife and a rollers wage doesn't make ends meet. 3. Shortage of ready cash to pay for tobacco infrastructure (new and improvements to existing). 4. Shortage of ready cash to pay for production materials. 4
Rhinoww Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:08 AM, El Presidente said: a lot of that tobacco (60 metric ton) is cigarette tobacco. the 45 ton lost in the past 14 days is cigar tobacco and at least 30 ton largely wrapper. Say: 3 million cigars. Expand An important distinction I had not considered. So that’s a huge bummer then. On 6/8/2022 at 12:15 AM, El Presidente said: shortage of quality wrapper for larger format cigars lack of rollers. Some factories are still under 60% roller capacity and they can't find people to train. * There is a flood of young people leaving Cuba. * Inflation is rife and a rollers wage doesn't make ends meet. Expand Any good news?
Chas.Alpha Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 The N1 2021 blends are pretty much spot on. Just sayin’... 😳 2
Rhinoww Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:18 AM, Chas.Alpha said: The N1 2021 blends are pretty much spot on. Just sayin’... 😳 Expand Thank you. I can only keep up w my piss and moan posts for so long😂 2
El Presidente Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:18 AM, Rhinoww said: Any good news? Expand .....it couldn't get any worse 4
Rhinoww Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:20 AM, El Presidente said: .....it couldn't get any worse Expand That’s what I thought about last august …. 1
Chas.Alpha Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:20 AM, El Presidente said: .....it couldn't get any worse Expand Ummm, hurricane season has just begun around these parts... 😳 1
Texwrangler Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 I cringed when I read the speaker refer to the workers as ‘peasants’ 3
Popular Post El Presidente Posted June 8, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:28 AM, Texwrangler said: I cringed when I read the speaker refer to the workers as ‘peasants’ Expand It is a cultural thing. In the west we call them..... "constituents" same thing 5 5
Fugu Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Disheartening to see that. Pobrecitos! On 6/7/2022 at 11:56 PM, El Presidente said: In 2019, crop production of tobacco in Cuba amounted to 61 thousand metric tons. Expand This must be total tobacco crop. For cigars they usually try to achieve >25k tonnes (I think I remember reading the plan for 2022 was somewhere about 27 k, which they abandoned quickly when seedlings where lost. - From memory, I could be wrong, can’t look it up atm). 30 thousand would be an exceptional good crop these days. Vueltabajo would be less of course.
El Presidente Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:54 AM, Fugu said: Disheartening to see that. Pobrecitos! This must be total tobacco crop. For cigars they usually try to achieve >25k tonnes (I think I remember reading the plan for 2022 was somewhere about 27 k, which they abandoned quickly when seedlings where lost. - From memory, I could be wrong, can’t look it up atm). 30 thousand would be an exceptional good crop these days. Vueltabajo would be less of course. Expand I think they were referring here to hectares planted.
yossie Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:15 AM, El Presidente said: 3. Shortage of ready cash to pay for tobacco infrastructure (new and improvements to existing). 4. Shortage of ready cash to pay for production materials. Expand Meanwhile, Habanos got their highest ? revenue..
El Presidente Posted June 8, 2022 Author Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 1:01 AM, yossie said: Meanwhile, Habanos got their highest ? revenue.. Expand based on 2019-2020 production. Then came Covid & the collapse of tourism.
Fugu Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 12:59 AM, El Presidente said: I think they were referring here to hectares planted. Expand Yep, that’s right! But I think, the crop tonnage is also around that figure I.e. roughly one T leaf (dried raw tobacco) per hectare, isn’t it?
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