El Presidente Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 This was asked of me earlier in the week and I had no idea but I promised to put it to more learned members on the forum. "Not including Cuba and the USA, what are the oldest brands/producers of premium cigars in the Caribbean and central/south/latin America that are pre 1959? Are any still in existence today?" 3
Popular Post NSXCIGAR Posted January 5, 2022 Popular Post Posted January 5, 2022 https://www.holts.com/clubhouse/cigar-culture/history-of-cigars-in-dominican-republic The Oldest Dominican Brand The DR’s tobacco industry got a boost in 1903 when an 18-year old member of a tobacco-growing family decided to open a cigar factory. Eduardo León Jimenes opened La Aurora in Guazumal, near Santiago. He dreamed of creating a global cigar brand. León, which means “lion” in Spanish and is the company symbol, began with only six rollers who made a Double Figurado, known today as La Aurora Preferido or Edición 1903, a Perfecto shape. In 1912, Eduardo and his brother moved the factory to Santiago. The La Aurora brand is a home-grown brand and remained a domestic cigar, not yet fulfilling Eduardo’s dream. La Aurora survived dictatorships and hard economic challenges and has now become a diverse company. Its portfolio includes the brewery that produces Presidente beer. Today, the La Aurora brand is sold in more than 60 countries. 3 2
Cigar Surgeon Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 Joya de Nicaragua was the first and is the oldest manufacturer in Nicaragua and they opened in 1968. 2 1
Bijan Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 https://halfwheel.com/revamped-royal-jamaica-coming-to-casa-de-montecristo/384479/amp/ "The Royal Jamaica brand traces its history back to 1935, and as the name would imply, was founded in Kingston, Jamaica and used Jamaican tobacco. While the brand changed hands over the years, it was eventually acquired by Altadis U.S.A. and is believed to still be part of the company’s portfolio. Tabacalera USA owns both Altadis U.S.A. and Casa de Montecristo, as well as JR Cigar." 2 1
NSXCIGAR Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, Bijan said: it was eventually acquired by Altadis U.S.A. and is believed to still be part of the company’s portfolio DECEMBER 3, 2020 REVAMPED ROYAL JAMAICA COMING TO CASA DE MONTECRISTO https://halfwheel.com/revamped-royal-jamaica-coming-to-casa-de-montecristo/384479/
Bijan Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 1 minute ago, NSXCIGAR said: DECEMBER 3, 2020 REVAMPED ROYAL JAMAICA COMING TO CASA DE MONTECRISTO https://halfwheel.com/revamped-royal-jamaica-coming-to-casa-de-montecristo/384479/ I think we quoted the same article. For some more background: https://www.cigaraficionado.com/article/jamaicas-cigar-comeback-7315 "Gore knows hurricanes all too well. In September 1988, Hurricane Gilbert slammed into Jamaica at full strength, maiming the nation's cigar industry. The storm destroyed Gore's factory in Kingston, which had stood since his grandfather James Frederick Gore founded Royal Jamaica in 1935, and ruined 1,000 acres of tobacco in May Pen. It was the worst natural disaster to befall Jamaica since the 1907 earthquake that turned Kingston into rubble. Because of Gilbert, the Jamaican tobacco industry was set back several years, production of Royal Jamaica cigars was shifted to the Dominican Republic, and Jamaican tobacco was no longer used in the island's biggest brand, Macanudo." 2
Skeng Don Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 Royal Jamaica i guess, they have a good history of good tobacco and cigars
Chas.Alpha Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 I would probably research Tampa/Ybor city to find that answer?
Digi Posted January 5, 2022 Posted January 5, 2022 I'd wager there are some old marcas from Indonesia, Philippines, and Sumatra though they'd be small shops if still surviving today. 2
Popular Post El Presidente Posted January 5, 2022 Author Popular Post Posted January 5, 2022 Tabacalera: 130 years of cigars and Philippine history - Norman Sison - December 5, 2011 | 12:00am MANILA, Philippines - Cigars symbolize success, wealth and power. For Filipinos, cigars also connect the present with their nation’s past. No one did that better than former Philippine president Fidel Ramos, who earned the nickname “Tabako” by chomping around with an unlit cigar during his 1992-98 presidency. Filipinos were reminded that cigars were very much part of the nation’s history. It is a point that Tabacalera Incorporada, the Philippines’ oldest cigar company, makes an effort to make in every cigar that rolls out of its 2,700-square meter factory in Dasmariñas, Cavite province. “We are trying to educate the customer about the history and heritage behind the product,” says Yuan Ongpin, executive vice president of Tabacalera, which marked its 130th anniversary this month. “Tabacalera is a Philippine institution.” Tobacco was introduced by the Spanish conquistadores when the galleon San Clemente, plying the Manila-Acapulco galleon trade, brought in 50 kilos of Cuban tobacco seeds in 1592. As early as the 17th century, Philippine-made cigars – better known as Manila cigars – were being celebrated in Europe’s smoking salons. Cigars as large as eggplants became a Filipino family affair. Even young children puffed. That prompted the Spaniards to sneer that the Indios learned how to smoke before they learned how to think. Because of cigars’ popularity, the authorities imposed a tobacco monopoly in 1780. Only the colonial government may plant tobacco, manufacture and sell cigars. The idea was to make the colony independent from subsidies that had to be shipped in from New Spain (present-day Mexico), then a Spanish possession. In a twist of fate, tobacco contributed to the downfall of Spanish colonial rule. The monopoly caused poverty and corruption and, eventually, resentment. Filipinos were angered because they had to buy their smokes, whereas before they could plant tobacco in their backyards and roll their own cigars. Violators were punished with lashings, imprisonment and, in some cases, death. By the 1870s, liberal Spaniards were lobbying for the monopoly’s abolition, citing hardships caused upon the natives. “The concern was not entirely altruistic,” wrote professor Ed de Jesus in his book The Tobacco Monopoly in the Philippines. “It was partly based on the fear that if the government did not do away with the monopoly, the people might do away with the government.” When the monopoly was abolished on June 5, 1881, revolutionary fever was already setting. Smoking helped fuel the struggle for nationhood, according to historian Ambeth Ocampo. Historical documents revealed expenses of the First Philippine Republic under General Emilio Aguinaldo included cigarillos that were distributed to soldiers of the nascent Philippine Army. Compañia General de Tabacos de Filipinas – better known by its nickname Tabacalera – was founded on Nov. 11, 1881, by the Marquis of Comillas Antonio Lopez y Lopez before the tobacco monopoly’s abolition took effect the following year. Effectively establishing a near monopoly, Compañia General acquired the various cigar firms in the Philippines and standardized quality. Ironically, the demand for Philippine cigars was causing its own demise. “Tabacalera contributed greatly to save the reputation of Philippine dark tobacco and Manila cigars each time quality was being sacrificed for quick profit,” says De La Salle professor Arcadio Malbarosa, who has been studying the company for past 10 years for his doctoral paper. “Quality deteriorated during the early post-monopoly years and in the immediate aftermath of the implementation of the Free Trade Law,” says Malbarosa, referring to legislation passed during the American colonial period. After World War II, the cigar industry took a dive when Filipinos switched to cigarettes. Compañia General’s flagship brand was La Flor de la Isabela, named after its cigar factory. After a century, Compañia General sold its cigar business and the factory passed on to Filipino hands. The cigar brand was renamed Tabacalera in honor of the founding company. To this day, how Tabacalera Incorporada manufactures cigars remains unchanged – totalmente hecho a mano or totally hand-made. Some of its wood presses are over a hundred years old. Tabacalera is eyeing more export-driven sales to reach newer heights. Just like in the old days, Spain is its top export market. “Clearly, and I’m not saying it without any boast, we are the Philippines’ best cigar hands down. We have the quality. We have the tradition, and we have the international brand recognition,” says Ongpin. To mark its 130th anniversary, Tabacalera has unveiled a premium blend, Tabacalera Gran Reserva. Despite the tightening restrictions on smoking, interest in cigars continues to come in. Sales growth has been at 25 percent. “There has been an increase this year from bars and other night spots asking us for our presence,” says Tabacalera general manager Alan Harrow, noting a return to the glory days. “It’s not as fast as we’d like it to be, but we’re slowly seeing changes.” For those who doubt the Philippine cigar’s quality, Filipinos may point to the words of famed British writer Rudyard Kipling, who attested its excellence with a stanza in his 1886 poem “The Betrothed”. “Open the old cigar box – let me consider a while,” he wrote. “Here is a mild Manila – there is a wifely smile.” 5
NSXCIGAR Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Bijan said: I think we quoted the same article. Ha, we did. The headline didn't match the paragraph and it looks like that part of the article was updated or spliced from a previous article. It says it was "updated" on Dec 3 and they didn't amend the paragraph stating it is "believed to still be part" of the portfolio. 7 hours ago, Chas.Alpha said: I would probably research Tampa/Ybor city to find that answer? After 1960 Tampa/Ybor was pretty much out of the game. 99% of US-made cigars were Clear Havanas and I don't believe much NC tobacco was ever rolled in the US. By the 1970s labor costs in the US became too high to compete with Central America. 7 hours ago, Digi said: Philippines Yes, as Rob points out above Philippines cigars were extremely popular particularly in England in the late 19th/early 20th century, hence Rudyard Kipling even referring to them as "Manilas" as we still refer to "Havanas" 3
Randolph Posted December 5, 2022 Posted December 5, 2022 Interesting post thanks for sharing as I had for Manila at this very moment in time. Any suggestions where I might be able to light up in Makati in a comfortable environment?
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