Vitola Corleone Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Apologies if this is a rehash, I couldn't find it easily in a forum search (or online). But someone here must know. Approximately how many long filler CC's make it to the US each year? Or, what percentage of output? And how does that stack up with official destinations for HSA cigars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijan Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Don't think there are any official stats. You could guesstimate it based on 3 stats: 1. Online sales 2. Duty free / travel sales 3. Brick and mortar sales Category 1 being probably the biggest source of CCs to the US market. 2 being the next. And 3 being a distant third. The percentage of each going to the US market is also not totally knowable but if 80% of sales are category 3 that would mean the US market is pretty small. If category 1 is now 80% for example then it could be very large. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Habana Mike Posted June 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2021 Authentic or fake? 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitola Corleone Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 24 minutes ago, Habana Mike said: Authentic or fake? Good point, but I'd be interested in numbers on both. Rough, of course. I'd settle for an error of +/- 10 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post El Presidente Posted June 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2021 30% of production approximately 9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypots Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 11 hours ago, El Presidente said: 30% of production approximately Does anyone know what % of Cuban rum production gets into the States? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derboesekoenig Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 Not today BATFE! No idea what you're talking about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitola Corleone Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 21 hours ago, El Presidente said: 30% of production approximately Interesting. So that is about 75 million cigars, give or take? I vaguely remember once reading that the US imports (offically) about 300 million premium cigars every year. Which obviously does not count the Cubans. So that would mean something like 1/5 of the US cigar market is Cuban. I wonder what Cuban imports in the US would be without the embargo. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Presidente Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 21 hours ago, Vitola Corleone said: Interesting. So that is about 75 million cigars, give or take? I don't believe they produce more than 80 million hand rolled cigars a year total. The year after the GFC was the last time I saw a solid figure used and it was 63 Million from memory. It wouldn't surprise me if that is about where they stand now. It certainly would help explain their supply situation. They talk big numbers. They lie a lot. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHPSteve Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 I’m not sure where El Pres is getting his figures, but I would have to concur. I would guess-timate between 1/3 and 1/2 of production. Americans (the United States variety) love to consume….especially the forbidden fruit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitola Corleone Posted June 14, 2021 Author Share Posted June 14, 2021 4 hours ago, El Presidente said: I don't believe they produce more than 80 million hand rolled cigars a year total. The year after the GFC was the last time I saw a solid figure used and it was 63 Million from memory. It wouldn't surprise me if that is about where they stand now. It certainly would help explain their supply situation. They talk big numbers. They lie a lot. OK that makes more sense. If the NC number 300 million is roughly accurate that means the US is more like ~7-8% CC's. Which is much more consistent with my experience of casual US smokers. It is not uncommon to find one who asks, "Have you ever smoked a cuban?" To which I reply, "Well there's this outfit in Australia..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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