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I’ve seen a lot of great reviews of the 2018 to current production. Popular opinion is hat they are smoking really well, with 2020 to 2025 crops being equally stellar.

 

Curious to what people think how they will age, seeing that they are smoking well right out of the box?

 

What are your thoughts?

 

 

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I’ve seen a lot of great reviews of the 2018 to current production. Popular opinion is hat they are smoking really well, with 2020 to 2025 crops being equally stellar.
 
Curious to what people think how they will age, seeing that they are smoking well right out of the box?
 
What are your thoughts?
 
 
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This reminds me of the conversations we were having on various boards in 2008/2009, as the 2008 box codes were an obvious jump in quality and so many marcas were smoking well right out of the box at the time.

In the end, these ended up aging wonderfully so far IMO. I’m smoking from a few 2008/2009 boxes at the moment that are just starting to really hit a stride.

Based on this experience, I honestly think the current box codes will age well. Maybe different aging patterns than other years, but I think the current uptick in quality will only serve for a better end product post aging.


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Great question and I have been wondering the same. I’ve always been under the impression you need the legs and rough edges to stand the test of time. In wine you often look for big tannins.

If so approachable now, do they have the legs to stand up over time? Idk.

Look forward to the views of those that have a lot more experience. I’m buying much too many ‘19 and ‘20 to smoke in the next few years so I sure hope they can hold on for the next 7-10 ?.

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Very, very well is what I would guess. Poster up top posted about that 2006-2008 timeframe. He’s right, they were good out of the box, and have aged well, but what I’ve seen since 2016 makes that time period look like small potatoes. We’ve got quality nowadays across all maracas that I don’t ever remember seeing. The problem back in the 06-08 years was that we were dealing with a lot of monolithic blends, and now we have very clearly recognizable blends. Back then if you did a blind tasting, almost no one could correctly identify blends. Nowadays I don’t think it would be that much trouble provided that you were familiar with the blends involved. It seems regular production now has seen the return of great individual blends, much greater consistency from stick to stick and obviously high quality tobacco. There is good shit coming out of Cuba right now. 

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I personally don’t think anything of recent birth will age as it did in the old days. I think cigars are a lot more approachable young, with the tobacco and formats being rolled and that this will be at detriment to aging. I think they’ll do well 5-10 years. Drop off at 15. And be like warm air at 20. 
The real question is. Why age at all? I think the real reason for aging was improvement and there was plenty of reasoning and achievement accomplished. Now days there isn’t much improvement required, cigars are pretty much spot on within the first few years. 
I wouldn’t hold cigars for smoking in 10 years. Flipping, sure, but not for my personal smoking. 

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The implementation of freezing in 2004/5. The purported blend changes + new strains. The cognoscenti of the cigar world were toting the end of days :D

2006/07/9/10  all aged just fine and smoke beautifully today. 

2018-20 won't be any different. 

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Define aged is the first question.  5-10, 10-15, 15+ years?  I bet several of the newer blends on the "bread & butter cigars" will get a little papery after 15 years.  Some cigars still have an older tannic-punchy side when fresh and I would lean towards those cigars for the 15+ year category.

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On 8/4/2020 at 11:36 AM, Psiman said:

It’s pretty much been proven the 2000’s non corojo tobaccos do not age well long term like over a dozen years. It is not like 90’s and back cigars that aged much different. It’s the way it is and it’s not going to change. Get use to it or buy 20 something or older cigars. I don’t romanticize new or old cigars or attach value based on brand or age and what size it is. Lots of rationalizing based on price with all kinds of products and people assigning it better because of it’s age and price. People want to believe they are buying some kind of prestige elevated by it’s age and or price. A lot of phony snobbery is usually attached.  A la Davidoff. I rest my case

I'm smoking a post 2000 punch DC. It's flipping gorgeous. Smooth, mild yet rich. Can't fault it.

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