USA tobacco purchase age to be increased from 18-21.

[bbguardsp]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-administration-raises-legal-age-buy-tobacco-us/story?id=67853526&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_related

[PaulPower]

At least they didn’t pass the ban on internet sales that they contemplated.


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[Subcomandante]

People will just get older people to buy them, go to places that will sell to them, or buy dangerous illegal vapes. Stupid. You can vote, buy an gun, join the military and kill people but you can’t  smoke a cigarette. Makes no sense. 

[mtd057]

The age should be 18 for both alcohol and tobacco.  You are considered an adult at that age and the govt. treats you as such (voting, military, legally).  Just another silly law that makes no sense to me but makes some people feel better.

[prodigy]

It's already happening. Virginia already passed and implemented it and I believe north Carolina hoes into effect after the new year.

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[dominattorney]

You are old enough to be sentenced to death or life in prison, but you cant smoke. Dumb 

[El Presidente]

One more slip on the rope.

We have seen it all before.  Seemingly constant minor amendments until one day the cigar public realises that they have lost any control over their hobby. 

[JY0]

Like a  Frog in boiling water. We are losing our freedoms one degree at a time. Do they really think this will stop an 18 year old from smoking... or get one to quit? 

[JoeyBones777]

Nanny state nonsense! They need to raise the voting, driving, military and draft age to 21! If they are telling me someone isn't old enough to choose to drink a beverage or smoke something I don't want them operating a firearm, vehicle or chosing our leaders!

Conversely, if they are telling teenagers they are old enough to die for their country then they are plenty old to smoke a cigar and have a beer!

Maybe the government should just shut up and look out the window!...but they never will.?

[Jaesian]

We are a confused country ?

[bpm32]

People always complain about our do-nothing Congress, but I actually don’t mind when they’re gridlocked. Their job is basically to sit around and come up with more stuff we aren’t allowed to do.

[Jaesian]

11 hours ago, bpm32 said:

People always complain about our do-nothing Congress, but I actually don’t mind when they’re gridlocked. Their job is basically to sit around and come up with more stuff we aren’t allowed to do.

It’d be nice if we actually agreed on things and actually got beneficial things accomplished

[Fugu]

Slightly off-topic, but along the same lines - were just chatting with my home B&M owners the other day, that EU-legislation will now demand all producers of tobacco products to provide full traceability of origin. Now, in principle such is not exactly new, and these fine folks get a few pipe tobacco blends mixed for their house-brand. The necessary proof of origin had been and could still - if one demands so - always be provided by their manufacturer through invoices and shipping notes etc.. But the new "harmonized" process and pertaining obligatory paperwork, incl. costly certifications (of course you have to hire a certifying agency for it....) will now make production of these specialities uneconomical, and will price these niche specialities - some of which coming with >half a century's track record - eventually out of the market. In the near future we'll only see the big brands survive with their mass market products. Well, just another step. And again, anti-B&M legislation at its finest.

 

[El Presidente]

8 minutes ago, Fugu said:

Slightly off-topic, but along the same lines - were just chatting with my home B&M owners the other day, that EU-legislation will now demand all producers of tobacco products to provide full traceability of origin. Now, in principle such is not exactly new, and these fine folks get a few pipe tobacco blends mixed for their house-brand. The necessary proof of origin had been and could still - if one demands so - always be provided by their manufacturer through invoices and shipping notes etc.. But the new "harmonized" process and pertaining obligatory paperwork, incl. costly certifications (of course you have to hire a certifying agency for it....) will now make production of these specialities uneconomical, and will price these niche specialities - some of which coming with >half a century's track record - eventually out of the market. In the near future we'll only see the big brands survive with their mass market products. Well, just another step. And again, anti-B&M legislation at its finest.

 

EU is tough. Getting any international product certified for EU sale takes more work than for anywhere else on the planet. 

I feel for the boutique passionistas in our industry. 

 

[Meklown]

On 12/22/2019 at 8:34 AM, JY0 said:

Do they really think this will stop an 18 year old from smoking... or get one to quit?

The logic - whether we/the public agree or not - is that this will stop the "moderates" from trying it out during an "experimental" phase in their lives, leading to one getting hooked for life.

This reminds me of Singapore casinos where locals have to pay a $100 entrance fee. Casual gamblers like me simply don't go, while hardcore gamblers will not be put off by the $100 anyway.