mwaller Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just had my first Hoyo San Juan (SOM 16) and loved it. Very smooth, creamy and sweet. Is there a shorter format cigar that offers a similar experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainQuintero Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 The Epicure no.1 I think could be in the target zone you're after, the du Dauphin if you can find any deleted stock too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSXCIGAR Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 To me the SJ is unique in the Hoyo lineup. It's got a sweetness and less wood and cream than almost any other Hoyo. It's really the only Hoyo I smoke. I really don't think the Epis are comparable. Neither is the Rio Seco which is much woodier to me than the SJ. I would try the Depute or the Gourmet only because I haven't tried either in a long time and maybe they're similar but just due to ring gauge I doubt they'll have the same character as the SJ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotusguy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Sadly, I haven't found anything that tastes similar. I sometimes also wish they had a shorter version for when I have less than an hour of time. I've just been buying more San Juan instead 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt1 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 9 hours ago, NSXCIGAR said: To me the SJ is unique in the Hoyo lineup. It's got a sweetness and less wood and cream than almost any other Hoyo. It's really the only Hoyo I smoke. I really don't think the Epis are comparable. Neither is the Rio Seco which is much woodier to me than the SJ. I would try the Depute or the Gourmet only because I haven't tried either in a long time and maybe they're similar but just due to ring gauge I doubt they'll have the same character as the SJ. I believe the Le Hoyo series use a different blend than the other regular production Hoyos, so that's probably why. I am in the same boat, I like the San Juan over all the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwaller Posted June 21, 2019 Author Share Posted June 21, 2019 Thanks for the comments. Yes, the San Juan is quite different from anything else I've experienced among Cuban cigars. I really like the Epicure 1, but I don't find it particularly creamy. It is however quite complex. The Epicure Especial certainly has a creamy character, but it also has a fair bit of wood and spice. The SJ was completely mellow with no harsh or sharp flavors. Is the du Depute anywhere in the ballpark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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