Green men and squid.

[Ken Gargett]

3 hours ago, Fugu said:

C'mon guys, semantics! Clearly by "...destroying the planet" it is meant, the destruction of our planet as a living environment. Once life is gone it's pretty secondary to mankind whether or not the blue - or howsoever then coloured - marble is still hovering around in space. 

thank you!

[Fugu]

2 hours ago, Akela3rd said:

Oh you killjoy! Yes, destroying the environment of the planet is a very different thing to destroying the planet itself but the same phrase is being used for both - which is my bugbear

Sorry! ...haha. Just thought I'd quickly drop by helping Ken, as he's always so shy speaking up for himself.

 

(....at least that was how I caught the gist of his original post to which you were replying. But sure you are right - just the question is, which of both events is of greater relevance to us and our alien guests....  )

[hunterbeav]

This is all becoming a very pedantic conversation

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[hunterbeav]

Yep

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[Fuzz]

The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

[Akela3rd]

The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

Don't bring religion into this.

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[Akela3rd]

This is all becoming a very pedantic conversation

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We know, that's why we're here

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[Tobbot]

22 hours ago, Colt45 said:

Ice ages, meteor strikes, mass extinctions - the planet renews itself. Every once in a while it needs to shed it's skin....

So the question becomes, will technologically advanced life reset and how long. Kinda interesting to think about whether this time frame would shorten...in other words, as life becomes more advanced (in 4.5 billion years) does the process of evolution/adaptation speed up.

[Akela3rd]

So the question becomes, will technologically advanced life reset and how long. Kinda interesting to think about whether this time frame would shorten...in other words, as life becomes more advanced (in 4.5 billion years) does the process of evolution/adaptation speed up.

Good point. We're all assuming it'll be humans making contact but it may be that in future times the cockroach /enzyme / apple tree / whale / whatever evolutionary derivative reaches out. Now that's an interesting twist...

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[GavLew79]

When I was a kid, c. 8 or 9, in rural Wales we'd just left my auntie's house and were driving back to ours. My mother and I were in the car. We spot something to the left of us and stop the car. Over the hills in the distance, probably about a km, there is a slowly moving, er, 'craft' with a powerful white light beam eminating from its centre, lighting up the hills beneath. We could see some sheep in the beam and it was effectively scanning the ground. Around the circumference of the craft are 'dancing' green and red lights. It gets closer and closer and I get increasingly freaked out, begging my mother to drive off and get out of there. In the end, we did. This was c. 1987. way before the Police had helicopters with searchlights (at least in Dyfed-Powys). Way before drones. Way before anything we could explain at the time. 

We get home. My old man is like "yeah, yeah, of course you did!" incredulous. We both draw the same thing when asked to recall. 

What did I see? As a 9-10 year old? No idea. Scary shit is all I can recall at the time. Probably induced by what my mother was saying or doing. I obviously picked up on her unease. 30-some years later; thinking about it, we probably saw a conventional aircraft of some sort. Or a dressed-up model aircraft. It seems far too much "like the movie representation" of a UFO. My mother, bless her, still thinks it was a UFO of the sinister kind. 

When I was younger, reading things like the Rendelsham forest incident, where professional military people reported some really weird stuff, I was very open minded. But people are fallible. 

Later in life, I have come to learn that what people 'see', experience and recall is all variable and the mind is wonderfully convincing. Whether it's ghosts and dead relatives, stigmata, or aliens and experimental probing, it is probably just chemical and electrical anomalies in the brain, induced by psychological or physiological stimuli.  

[HopeUgood]

Statistically improbable that we are the only form of intelligent life in the universe. 

[Trevor2118]

On 12/7/2018 at 8:22 PM, Fuzz said:

Pretty sure our universe is "Universe B". Has a "B" kinda feel to it...

 

Fuzz, I think it is  B-  at best.