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So if we order a box or two from the international store, it will come from this mastercase?

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Been a while since we’ve seen some primo PE’s!


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I agree. I got Rob’s psp batch back in October. Those dark oily beauties. Actually smoking one now. Trying to keep my hands off of them. Need to restock. 17819d23e754fe87c7abafffb7beba76.jpg


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Those are some greasy lookin' cigars.

 

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Has anyone tested oily vs non-oily cigars in terms of flavor?  I've smoked many dry-looking cigars that were absolutely delicious and have also smoked oily wrapper cigars that were underwhelming.  I'm wondering if there is an actual correlation in terms of oily wrapper and flavor.

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26 minutes ago, mt1 said:

Has anyone tested oily vs non-oily cigars in terms of flavor?  I've smoked many dry-looking cigars that were absolutely delicious and have also smoked oily wrapper cigars that were underwhelming.  I'm wondering if there is an actual correlation in terms of oily wrapper and flavor.

Good thin, tensile, oily wrapper leaf is the most prized by farmers themselves. In the best examples you can stretch them.

The deck guys enjoy doing it on a Friday afternoon (comparison of say an oily PLPC and a PLPC that is a second. they are found in our discount section in the walk in). 

In summary, and to our tastes (all things being equal ie construction/age): consistently the poorest experiences are wrappers that are thick & dark or thin dry/brittle and pale. 

The best experiences are thin supple colorado maduro with sheen,  claro/colorado with sheen, or rosado with sheen. 

Can you find a thin, dry brittle and pale cigar that tastes great, absolutely.  You will consistently get a better chance of a great experience smoking a great claro with sheen. 

When it comes to certain marques such as Monte, a colorado maduro with sheen makes a big difference IF you are chasing that Monte cocoa profile.  You won't get that from a dry, pale wrapper to anywhere near the same extent.  That wrapper just works with some blends more than others.  

Importance of wrapper is personal. To some  the top box below is more than fine. In this comparison however, I would rather put my coin on the second box or elsewhere.  Same box code. 

 

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22 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Good thin, tensile, oily wrapper leaf is the most prized by farmers themselves. In the best examples you can stretch them.

The deck guys enjoy doing it on a Friday afternoon (comparison of say an oily PLPC and a PLPC that is a second. they are found in our discount section in the walk in). 

In summary, and to our tastes (all things being equal ie construction/age): consistently the poorest experiences are wrappers that are thick & dark or thin dry/brittle and pale. 

The best experiences are thin supple colorado maduro with sheen,  claro/colorado with sheen, or rosado with sheen. 

Can you find a thin, dry brittle and pale cigar that tastes great, absolutely.  You will consistently get a better chance of a great experience smoking a great claro with sheen. 

When it comes to certain marques such as Monte, a colorado maduro with sheen makes a big difference IF you are chasing that Monte cocoa profile.  You won't get that from a dry, pale wrapper to anywhere near the same extent.  That wrapper just works with some blends more than others.  

Importance of wrapper is personal. To some  the top box below is more than fine. In this comparison however, I would rather put my coin on the second box or elsewhere.  Same box code. 

 

Sancho.jpg

 

 

Very informative, thanks Pres!  I do echo similar experiences on the Monte coco-profile, I was just wondering more in general because I've had some (for example) dry looking pale P2's that I thought were excellent compared to some darker oilier examples, but it's just opinion at the end of the day.  It just makes me sad sometimes when I smoke a cigar that looks really good but doesn't taste so great (to me).

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8 minutes ago, mt1 said:

Very informative, thanks Pres!  I do echo similar experiences on the Monte coco-profile, I was just wondering more in general because I've had some (for example) dry looking pale P2's that I thought were excellent compared to some darker oilier examples, but it's just opinion at the end of the day.  It just makes me sad sometimes when I smoke a cigar that looks really good but doesn't taste so great (to me).

Thick oily dark wrapper will NEVER come good. Insipid, pale brittle wrappers are unlikely to produce a premium result. 

However you should put good oily wrapper down longer than say the box of plain janes in the photo above.  Too many people smoke them too young. Allow time to produce a good result. it is not easy I know :D

 

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4 minutes ago, El Presidente said:

Thick oily dark wrapper will NEVER come good. Insipid, pale brittle wrappers are unlikely to produce a premium result. 

However you should put good oily wrapper down longer than say the box of plain janes in the photo above.  Too many people smoke them too young. Allow time to produce a good result. it is not easy I know :D

 

It's caused me to develop a habit of buying two boxes of everything...

I read somewhere that an oily wrapper may mean that the tobacco needs more time (like you said) (and by that logic, I guess you could stipulate that  drier wrappers may at one point have been oily?).  In any case, the one combination for me over the years that has never failed are cigars that are not noticeably oily but also not too dry (i guess "normal") and when you light them up, the wrappers starts to become very oily as the cigar heats up.  Those sticks are always real tasty, which leads me to wonder if oily wrappers just need more time for the oils to absorb into the cigar.

I don't know, I'm just spitballin' here.  I've been lucky in not receiving any crap boxes even when desperately buying blind but I now also try not to judge a cigar by its wrapper anymore.

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On ‎7‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 8:52 PM, El Presidente said:

It will be hard to beat these as mastercase of the week. 

 

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So glad I was able to get a box of these! Yah I'm bragging!

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