The Aging List

[prodigy]

Back to the topic of aging. I personally think it all comes back to budget. Some people can't afford to buy enough cigars to age long term and enjoy currently. Along with that, comes storage. Granted there are cheap and effective methods such as coolidors and tupperdores, but depending on climate and energy consumption costs, some people still can't make that work.

 

I like the concept of sample a stick ROTT. If it's to YOUR liking, keep on smoking them. If you think it's not ready, try one again in whatever interval of time you are comfortable with. I've not been in this world very long, but I've already had sticks that weren't good at all when I got them, and now they are much better.

 

There is a line between personal preference and actual qualities that emerge from aging. I have a cab of plpc that I am refusing to touch because I want the caramel that I know will come in 3-5 years. Same goes for my RyJ short churchills. They suck right now, but one day (I hope) I will be rewarded with a cherry bomb.

 

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[btort910]

19 hours ago, HeadInTheClouds said:

+1 I do this for every order I get. Its either "Hey this is great as is" or "Nap time for 2-3months". I dont have the room to be aging stuff for years.

+2

[PigFish]

This brings me back some years when there was this argument about Cubans 'cooking' tobacco. I don't want to start it once more but make a point of it. There were a lot of seasoned smokers who bemoaned a cigar that could be smoked when fresh. I believe today as I did then that the complaint, the cigars might not age, was pure idiocy. This whole thing about age...

What is age? Is it a superior cigar or not? You know what I glean mostly from these conversations? It is about the boxes one has bought that don't taste that good. It is a flaw with the cigars sampled, ones that would likely never be better... It is about cutting slack to folks (Tabacuba) that know that people will do this, rather than blame them for making crappy cigars, and wasting their resources and the humidor space on keeping crappy cigars, hoping the remainder of a purchase will be better than those already sampled.

That is what I get out of this bloody thread.

A member a few posts up, says, 'some guys cannot afford this or that.' Those are the facts of the matter! Not everyone here or elsewhere can afford to own a few thousand cigars and sit on them. Some cannot keep hoards of cigars, nor should they be required to, not to smoke a good one! Everyone in a box should be good! They should be able to be smoked (water content notwithstanding) by the guy or gal who spends his coin on it. If he/she cannot, at a rate of 1 or 2 per box, that happens. But when it is 5 or 10, or 1/2 or most of the box.... man, that is bullshit, and nothing short of shameful performance of a company (any company) that allows it to happen and keep happening.

Sampling cigars to see if they got better.... Yes, I have done it too. But it is bullshit! The fact that we do it. It is really bullshit for the guy on deployment somewhere (just an example) who is supporting a family at home, stops by the local cigar store, and pays good money and gets crap! It sucks for all of us but the guy who just wants a good smoke, and does not have the resources to 'own a thousand of them' should be able to get a good smoke when he puts down good money to get one...

Rant over!

-the Pig

[Isaac]

5 minutes ago, PigFish said:

This brings me back some years when there was this argument about Cubans 'cooking' tobacco. I don't want to start it once more but make a point of it. There were a lot of seasoned smokers who bemoaned a cigar that could be smoked when fresh. I believe today as I did then that the complaint, the cigars might not age, was pure idiocy. This whole thing about age...

What is age? Is it a superior cigar or not? You know what I glean mostly from these conversations? It is about the boxes one has bought that don't taste that good. It is a flaw with the cigars sampled, ones that would likely never be better... It is about cutting slack to folks (Tabacuba) that know that people will do this, rather than blame them for making crappy cigars, and wasting their resources and the humidor space on keeping crappy cigars, hoping the remainder of a purchase will be better than those already sampled.

That is what I get out of this bloody thread.

A member a few posts up, says, 'some guys cannot afford this or that.' Those are the facts of the matter! Not everyone here or elsewhere can afford to own a few thousand cigars and sit on them. Some cannot keep hoards of cigars, nor should they be required to, not to smoke a good one! Everyone in a box should be good! They should be able to be smoked (water content notwithstanding) by the guy or gal who spends his coin on it. If he/she cannot, at a rate of 1 or 2 per box, that happens. But when it is 5 or 10, or 1/2 or most of the box.... man, that is bullshit, and nothing short of shameful performance of a company (any company) that allows it to happen and keep happening.

Sampling cigars to see if they got better.... Yes, I have done it too. But it is bullshit! The fact that we do it. It is really bullshit for the guy on deployment somewhere (just an example) who is supporting a family at home, stops by the local cigar store, and pays good money and gets crap! It sucks for all of us but the guy who just wants a good smoke, and does not have the resources to 'own a thousand of them' should be able to get a good smoke when he puts down good money to get one...

Rant over!

-the Pig

I like this thought process.  I find it rather odd that you can buy a box of non cubans and smoke them off right out of the box, yet most cubans claim to need rest periods.