nick-seattle Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Hi, I have two boxes of RAS now: RASS BAM MAR 16 & RASS SOM MAR 16. But if you look at the pictures, the boxes and labels look quite different, what gives? Both smoke great, the darker one from BAM is much better though. Both verified by Habanos authenticity check and all the holograms and watermarks are there.
AlohaStyle Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Can you post a closeup pic of the warranty seal sticker on the box on the right? Doing a quick glance at the box, that sure doesn't look good... The side font/words on the box are totally wrong, the Hecho en Cuba stamp is off... not good. PM sent to ya
NSXCIGAR Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Yeah, the box on the right (the BAM MAR 16 box) has some suspicious characteristics...
TheGipper Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Bar code authenticity check is utterly meaningless. It's easy to duplicate numbers or simply look them up. They're sequentially applied anyway, so one valid number for a box will give counterfeiters many valid numbers to apply. The bar code isn't really intended for our benefit anyway. I can say with a lot of confidence you did not get the BAM MAR 16 box on the right from our hosts. Or any other reliable shop.
NSXCIGAR Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 The BAM code was already used from 2012-2013 and I believe some 2014, but that code should be long retired by 2016. Big red flag, not to mention the funky font it has.
nick-seattle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Posted May 4, 2017 I do question authenticity of BAM box as it did come from a private seller. But the darn thing tastes better than the box that looks more authentic - strange.
AlohaStyle Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 I was talking about the BAM box looking fugazzi and asking about that warranty seal. As I said in the PM, all things add up to totally fugazzi, no question about it. Sorry man. 1
nick-seattle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Posted May 4, 2017 Dang, these taste amazing. the best RASS that I had - with all seriousness. I just opened one up, all long filler, no junk.
Ryan Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Two things, the box with the BAM code. If it came from Cuba this year, it should have a health warning with the word MINSAP prominent on it (MINSAP The Cuban Ministry of health "Ministerio de Salud Publica"). Not having that on the front of the box is a big warning sign for me. I haven't seen a real box from Cuba without that sticker in years. Also, as others have said, the font used for BAM. I have never seen that font on a real box before. I have seen similar fonts on fake boxes. I'm sorry to say that I'd be 99% sure it's fake.
lafabrica Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 that BAM Mar 16 box does raise an alarm in my mind. nothing like what i have seen before with regards to font style. BAM is a valid code though, as mentioned above. interesting that you taste these to be better... question is how much better
NSXCIGAR Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, lafabrica said: BAM is a valid code though, as mentioned above. Not for 2016 it's not.
nick-seattle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Posted May 4, 2017 Thanks, everyone. it looks like I have a fake The cigar tastes significantly better. SOM box was underwhelming for me, but it's getting better. BAM box is a true gem - exactly how RASS is supposed to taste, power, complexity, pepper, coffee - all there. These might have come "directly" from the factory, so I have no clue what's going on.
havanaclub Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Yes that font as the other have said is off for sure. Haven't seen that one before. Here is a photo of the minisap sticker. However, I am not sure if it is on every single box? Is it just the ones actually purchased in Cuba? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
nick-seattle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Posted May 4, 2017 BTW, I also got Trinidad Robust Extra from the same person - also with 2016 code. Perfect cigar as well, but these have been discontinued.
PuffDaddie Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Buy all your Cuban cigars from Rob you can't go wrong. 1
Colt45 Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 I guess if I preferred the BAM cigars, I'd continue buying and enjoying those. All just cigars....... 2
nick-seattle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Posted May 4, 2017 As much as i want to buy everything from Rob, I always miss on 24:24 5:30 pm PST is usually very busy for me, and you guys and gals are very active , but lately I've been doing exactly that!
PapaDisco Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 DON'T SMOKE THE BOX ON THE LEFT!!!! It has too many big, scary warning labels! 1
canadianbeaver Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 You do not need to buy just from the 24:24 here. The site is open 24/7 and is great. CB 3
nick-seattle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Posted May 4, 2017 Just now, canadianbeaver said: You do not need to buy just from the 24:24 here. The site is open 24/7 and is great. CB that's true, but Rob's statement that "the best are listed in 24:24" raises my question about what is in the store
investandprosper Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 I'd say the BAM box is a fake, no doubt about it. Fonts are wrong, the box is physically bigger, and the cigars aren't uniform. Look at the irregularity of the cigar on the right vs. on the left, too. Trust your eyes, not your palate
Ryan Posted May 5, 2017 Posted May 5, 2017 4 hours ago, havanaclub said: Yes that font as the other have said is off for sure. Haven't seen that one before. Here is a photo of the minisap sticker. However, I am not sure if it is on every single box? Is it just the ones actually purchased in Cuba? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Only on boxes purchased in Cuba, but all boxes purchased in Cuba.
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